# Ghost Rider 2 was awful. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 17, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391 "2012-06-17T02:17:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/1 "2012-06-17T02:17:38Z")
F\*\*\*\*\*g awful. Jesus how did this movie get made? Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/2 "2012-06-17T02:22:54Z")
Because people will watch it. Like you did. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/3 "2012-06-17T02:46:07Z")
In other news, the universe is large. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/4 "2012-06-17T02:48:41Z")
Nicholas Cage makes shitty movies that sell a lot at the box office. He’s the most perfect proof of someone selling their soul to the devil for fame or fortune. He has no discernible talent but still gets roles. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/5 "2012-06-17T02:51:51Z")
We bought it today - we liked the first one well enough (it was kinda fun, the cgi was done well enough, etc) - but god this one just sucked. It had no soul. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/6 "2012-06-17T02:56:24Z")
You’d think Cage being so obsessed with comic books would mean his comic book movies would be really good. You’d think. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/7 "2012-06-17T03:50:32Z")
I have no idea how it got made. It was just bad. The first one was fun. But the second one was like watching grass dying. Took a long time to happen, then you are left with nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/8 "2012-06-17T04:11:47Z")
I liked it. Call me crazy but I think this movie added a little more depth to the “Ghost Ridder” side of Jonny Blaze. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/9 "2012-06-17T05:54:58Z")
When was Ghost Rider in Romania? Was this story from the comic books? And he looked better in the first one. FYI my son rented this turd. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/10 "2012-06-17T06:31:26Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > You’d think Cage being so obsessed with comic books would mean his comic book movies would be really good. > > You’d think. I don’t think Cage is so obsessed with comic books as he is with money. His roles over the last few years seem to indicate someone who’s in financial trouble who needs quick fat paychecks. ---
**Author:** ![srm13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@srm13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srm13)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/11 "2012-06-17T06:39:14Z")
He needs to stick to unserious secondary cast parts. Like Big Daddy in Kick-ass. The fact that this movie makes money is the reason why Hollywood greenlights so much garbage these days. Why take a chance on originality when sequels, remakes and the likes make them money no matter what? ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/12 "2012-06-17T07:14:55Z")
I never saw the first one, and I’m no Cage hater, but dear lord… I can’t imagine how terrible that movie must have been. I’m really sorry for anyone who has had the misfortune of sitting through it! ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/13 "2012-06-17T07:58:14Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > His roles over the last few years seem to indicate someone who’s in financial trouble who needs quick fat paychecks. You say this like you didn’t know that this is in fact [precisely what he’s doing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage#Real_estate_and_tax_problems). ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/14 "2012-06-17T08:30:07Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > You say this like you didn’t know that this is in fact [precisely what he’s doing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Cage#Real_estate_and_tax_problems). I did but I decided to soften my choice of words. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/15 "2012-06-17T08:40:08Z")
> [@srm13](#): > > The fact that this movie makes money is the reason why Hollywood greenlights so much garbage these days. Why take a chance on originality when sequels, remakes and the likes make them money no matter what? Ghost Rider 2 flopped hard. After foreign ticket sales and DVD sales, it’ll break even, but there likely won’t be a Ghost Rider 3. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/16 "2012-06-17T12:21:41Z")
I had no idea it was out. I knew it was being made, but I can’t remember when it was released. Even though I believe you when you tell me it sucked, I will likely rent it. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/17 "2012-06-17T14:12:48Z")
First of all, it’s title is _Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance_. Secondly, there are sites like Rotten Tomatoes that will tell you if a movie might be bad or not. 17% all critics, 27% top critics (!), 33% audience (I suspect some trolling there). 17% at RT means you watch it for the purpose of MST3King a bad movie. It cost $57M. It made $52M domestic box office. Throw in overseas, DVD, TV, etc. That’s why they made it. It will end up making a small amount of money. Maybe, just maybe, enough to inspire another sequel. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/18 "2012-06-17T14:38:31Z")
> [@](#): > > It cost $57M. It made $52M domestic box office. Throw in overseas For another $80 million so far, according to Box Office Mojo. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/19 "2012-06-17T15:49:44Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > F\*\*\*\*\*g awful. Jesus how did this movie get made? > > Carry on. [ > [@](#): > > Ghost Rider was commercially released in the United States on February 16, 2007. The film grossed **$15,420,123** on its opening day,[40] while earning $45,388,836 for its opening weekend. The film earned **$52,022,908** over the four-day President’s Day weekend, with a per-theater average of $US 14,374 in 3,619 theaters.[41] The film’s total earnings were $228,738,393 worldwide of which $115,802,596 was from the USA.[42] ]([Ghost Rider (disambiguation) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_%28film%29#Box_office)) ISTM that the more salient question would be: “How could it _NOT_ get made?” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/20 "2012-06-17T16:25:59Z")
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