# Ghost Rider 2 was awful. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 17, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391 "2012-06-17T02:17:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/21 "2012-06-17T17:04:49Z")
Ghost Rider is an example of a super hero that was made in the 70s and should have stayed there because there’s no way to adapt him to the post Easy Rider era. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/22 "2012-06-17T17:25:28Z")
[Hey, he sometimes turns down rolls.](http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=38380) ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/23 "2012-06-17T20:32:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > An earlier thread that may be of interest: [Whatever happened to Nicolas Cage? - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=394589) And that was from 2006. [Here’s](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/nicolas_cage/) his page at Rotten Tomatoes. Only 2 “fresh” films since then and one of those I would question (plus he wasn’t the lead). Mostly so-so films with a couple of real turkeys. His IMDb page lists _National Treasure 3_ (announced). So, we all have that to look forward to. The 2nd one made $220M. No one ever went broke … ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/24 "2012-06-17T21:10:15Z")
For what it’s worth, I thought the second was honestly much better than the first. That’s still not enough to make it good, but it was reasonably entertaining matinee - and I don’t usually enjoy bad movies. I also though it could have done much better with some relatively small changes. Also, I loved the fact that they basically told Cage to act like a crazy person, which he did the _entire damn movie_. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/25 "2012-06-18T00:18:18Z")
I just want a third _National Treasure_ movie. They’re fun. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/26 "2012-06-18T14:44:46Z")
Is it snobbery that I find the thread title to be a statement of the hilariously obvious? “Ghost Rider 2 was awful.” ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/27 "2012-06-18T15:41:27Z")
I thought the movie itself was passable, good popcorn fun, but I thought the new style of the Ghost Rider himself was really cool. He was almost kind of twitchy, with weird bird-like movements. It made him seem much more un-human. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/28 "2012-06-18T16:14:49Z")
The first one didn’t give you a clue? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/29 "2012-06-18T18:02:51Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > I did but I decided to soften my choice of words. Let me help you out: Cage is an immature, irresponsible man-boy; a cliche of the movie-rich actor who has forsaken his craft in order to pay for his irresponsible lifestyle, all the while expecting sympathy and generosity from movie-goers, while sneering at their gullibility. Fuck him: fuck him for wasting his talent and our time; fuck him for phoning in his roles; and fuck him for squandering what most of us would love to have even a small percentage of. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/30 "2012-06-18T18:28:29Z")
So, **Chefguy** , are you sayin’ you\* liked it?\* 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/31 "2012-06-18T18:33:35Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Let me help you out: Cage is an immature, irresponsible man-boy; a cliche of the movie-rich actor who has forsaken his craft in order to pay for his irresponsible lifestyle, all the while expecting sympathy and generosity from movie-goers, while sneering at their gullibility. Fuck him: fuck him for wasting his talent and our time; fuck him for phoning in his roles; and fuck him for squandering what most of us would love to have even a small percentage of. I read this with Cage’s voice in my mind. It’s kind of interesting that way. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/32 "2012-06-18T18:39:19Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I read this with Cage’s voice in my mind. It’s kind of interesting that way. Interspersed with bouts of maniacal laughter, coke-induced bared teeth, and sweaty brow, I hope. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/33 "2012-06-18T19:26:56Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I read this with Cage’s voice in my mind. It’s kind of interesting that way. Oddly, I heard it in James Lipton’s. Maybe they can get Andy Samberg to do _Ghost Rider 3_. ---
**Author:** ![SunSandSuffering](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@SunSandSuffering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunSandSuffering)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391/34 "2012-06-19T10:48:56Z")
In the trailer I saw hew was riding a [Yamaha VMAX](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_V-Max_and_VMAX#VMAX), what’s not to like? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghost-rider-2-was-awful/625391.md?page=1)