# Ghostbusters question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 2, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305 "2014-09-02T23:35:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/1 "2014-09-02T23:35:17Z")
This has always bugged me. When the demon dog thing first shows up at Rick Moranis’s character’s apartment during the party, it chases him out and possess him. Rick runs out of his apartment, across the street, hops over a wall, and towards this glass-walled, fancy restaurant that’s packed with people. For some reason, the door is locked! Why is it locked? It makes no sense at all! Its obviously still dinner time, the restaurant isn’t closed, but he pulls at the door and the stupid waiter just stares at him without helping him! ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/2 "2014-09-02T23:38:41Z")
Maybe that particular door was kept locked or only used as an emergency because it wasn’t the main entrance. Or it could’ve been locked because a private party was going on inside ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/3 "2014-09-02T23:40:14Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Maybe that particular door was kept locked or only used as an emergency because it wasn’t the main entrance. Or it could’ve been locked because a private party was going on inside Or they just knew him and didn’t like him… ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/4 "2014-09-03T00:09:13Z")
I thought it was an emergency exit door that only opened from the inside. ETA: Just checked right now. Yes, it is an emergency exit. You can see the “push” bar on the inside. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/5 "2014-09-03T00:29:57Z")
You want a _real_ plot hole - at one point Venkman gives Dana a large dose of Thorazine, but Venkman’s not a MD - his doctorates are in psychology and parapsychology, and even if he could prescribe or administer drugs, he didn’t have a medical bag or anything else with him when he arrived at Dana’s apartment. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/6 "2014-09-03T01:04:31Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You want a _real_ plot hole - at one point Venkman gives Dana a large dose of Thorazine, but Venkman’s not a MD - his doctorates are in psychology and parapsychology, and even if he could prescribe or administer drugs, he didn’t have a medical bag or anything else with him when he arrived at Dana’s apartment. No, he wasn’t an MD or have a medical bag. But he was on a date. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/7 "2014-09-03T01:20:55Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You want a _real_ plot hole - at one point Venkman gives Dana a large dose of Thorazine, but Venkman’s not a MD - his doctorates are in psychology and parapsychology, and even if he could prescribe or administer drugs, he didn’t have a medical bag or anything else with him when he arrived at Dana’s apartment. It’s funny you mentioned this because I just rewatched GB for the first time in years with a friend this weekend and he caught this and it had never occurred to me. Apparently Venkman brings tranquilizers on all his dates :). ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/8 "2014-09-03T02:32:27Z")
I figure Dana just had some Thorazine lying around the apartment. She was a musician, you know how musicians are. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/9 "2014-09-03T02:36:56Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You want a _real_ plot hole -… Speaking of plot holes; in Ghostbusters II they’re still regarded as charlatans by the authorities despite a gigantic marshmallow man very publicly attacking NYC 5 yrs previously. :dubious: Also Dana is apparently dual trained in art restoration and classical music; not impossible, but still a little weird. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/10 "2014-09-03T03:05:56Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Also Dana is apparently dual trained in art restoration _There is no Degas only Züüüüüüünd!_ ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/11 "2014-09-03T17:14:11Z")
Thanks guys. This has bugged me for like 25 years! ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/12 "2014-09-03T17:29:11Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I figure Dana just had some Thorazine lying around the apartment. She was a musician, you know how musicians are. Good theory, however when Peter searched her apartment he didn’t come across any drugs and when he knocked on her door that night she was already possessed. Perhaps if he went over to Louis’ apartment (the door being open) he might have found some generic thorazine in the medicine cabinet. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/13 "2014-09-03T17:34:38Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Speaking of plot holes; in Ghostbusters II they’re still regarded as charlatans by the authorities despite a gigantic marshmallow man very publicly attacking NYC 5 yrs previously. How much was the climatic rooftop battle witnessed by other people? The public consensus might be that New York was attacked by giant monsters who left for unknown reasons and these guys are just some con-men who were in the area when it happened and are trying to claim credit for saving the world. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/14 "2014-09-03T17:40:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > How much was the climatic rooftop battle witnessed by other people? The public consensus might be that New York was attacked by giant monsters who left for unknown reasons and these guys are just some con-men who were in the area when it happened and are trying to claim credit for saving the world. You are forgetting the crowd and news when they both entered and and left the building. Plus the mayor released them and sent them on the job. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/15 "2014-09-03T17:46:04Z")
The theory proposed during the trial at the beginning of GBII was that the Ghostbusters had dumped hallucinogens into the City’s water supply resulting in people seeing strange things. Neve rmind that the likelihood of several people seeing the same Marshmallow Man while on drugs is unlikely. Also, there are issues such as the street in front of Dana’s apartment being buckled, etc. (You don’t repair a torn up street if it’s a hallucination, right?) But that was just a cover story for the City to avoid paying the Ghostbusters and possibly others. Throw in people like the judge who wouldn’t believe in ghosts until they start throwing him around the courtroom. And if you believe that, we’d like to get a sample of your brain tissue. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/16 "2014-09-03T18:16:10Z")
Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/17 "2014-09-03T18:26:26Z")
Thanks for bringing that plot hole up: Shuvs were long extinct before the Voldrani even appeared on the scene, much less during the Reconciliation of the McKetricks. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/18 "2014-09-03T21:41:53Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > The theory proposed during the trial at the beginning of GBII was that the Ghostbusters had dumped hallucinogens into the City’s water supply resulting in people seeing strange things. Neve rmind that the likelihood of several people seeing the same Marshmallow Man while on drugs is unlikely. Also, there are issues such as the street in front of Dana’s apartment being buckled, etc. (You don’t repair a torn up street if it’s a hallucination, right?) > > But that was just a cover story for the City to avoid paying the Ghostbusters and possibly others. Throw in people like the judge who wouldn’t believe in ghosts until they start throwing him around the courtroom. > > And if you believe that, we’d like to get a sample of your brain tissue. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that anyone ever claims that the Ghostbusers placed hallucinogens in the city water supply in Ghostbusters II. At least not during the trial scene. In the original, Peck briefly claims they used nerve gas. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/19 "2014-09-03T23:05:48Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that anyone ever claims that the Ghostbusers placed hallucinogens in the city water supply in Ghostbusters II. At least not during the trial scene. In the original, Peck briefly claims they used nerve gas. The real problem the Ghostbusters have, it seems to me, is that ghosts only become a problem in NYC when there’s something apocalyptic about to happen, so their business dried up after the first film, requiring them to go on the birthday party circuit, until Vigo turned up. The same kind of thing likely happened after GBII. Ghosts should be understood not as nuisances requiring cleanup, but as precursors of potential disaster, but I’m not sure there’s a career in that for Venkman, et al. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/20 "2014-09-03T23:20:03Z")
That’s Tavern on the Green. I always thought those were actually windows he was trying to get in through. The main entrance is around the other side. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305.md?page=2)