# Ghostbusters question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 2, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305 "2014-09-02T23:35:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/21 "2014-09-03T23:24:58Z")

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I want to know how the dog that was visible to everyone who’s ever seen it magically disappeared from view of everyone except him

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/22 "2014-09-04T00:53:29Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

God I love this bit. I know Moranis does it, and helped write the movie I believe, but this bit just screams Dan Aykroyd’s writing to me.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/23 "2014-09-04T01:12:02Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I want to know how the dog that was visible to everyone who’s ever seen it magically disappeared from view of everyone except him

You mean when it approached him at the windows, and the diners didn’t see it? Once he stopped fleeing (or rather, ran out of places to go and turned at bay), it started to possess him. His perception of it as it approached was in his head; it was no longer physically present, so there was nothing for anyone else to see.

In other words, it magically disappeared from view of everyone except him. 😃

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/24 "2014-09-04T01:22:25Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I want to know how the dog that was visible to everyone who’s ever seen it magically disappeared from view of everyone except him

> [@Balance](#):
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> Once he stopped fleeing (or rather, ran out of places to go and turned at bay), it started to possess him. His perception of it as it approached was in his head; it was no longer physically present

Nah, I disagree with **Balance**. It’s much more simple than that.  
You’re in a brightly lit room. It’s very dark outside. Your eyes are adjusted to the light, it’s easy for things out in the dark to not be visible at all. Louis was right up against the glass and he had light from inside spilling out onto him. The Vinz Clortho Beastie is back off a bit in the dark. Naturally they would not have seen it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/25 "2014-09-04T01:42:26Z")

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Dude, the thing had [glowing red eyes](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140515200520/ghostbusters/images/3/37/ZuulTerrorDog1.png)!

Nah, they were just New Yorkers.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/26 "2014-09-04T02:40:36Z")

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Patton? Are you reading this? Announce yourself!

> <https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/507356786954108929>

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/27 "2014-09-05T00:45:34Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Speaking of plot holes; in Ghostbusters II they’re still regarded as charlatans by the authorities despite a gigantic marshmallow man very publicly attacking NYC 5 yrs previously. :dubious:

That’s nothing. London (and often the entire Earth) gets invaded by aliens pretty much annually, but the population tends to forget all about it by the next time the Doctor has to show up and drive them off.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/28 "2014-09-05T00:56:21Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> That’s nothing. London (and often the entire Earth) gets invaded by aliens pretty much annually, but the population tends to forget all about it by the next time the Doctor has to show up and drive them off.

True, and then was the bizarre back & forth over how much people remembered of the Great Martian Invasion of 1953 when **War of the Worlds** was made into a TV show.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/29 "2014-09-05T13:47:36Z")

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Of course, no one has yet mentioned the one mistake that grates me every time I hear it, even to this day. Near the end Ray references the Tunguska Blast as being in 1909. It happened in 1908. Small detail but it bugs me.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/30 "2014-09-05T13:56:07Z")

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Sure, that’s what people told you but these guys are scientists. They know better.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/31 "2014-09-05T15:35:03Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> You are forgetting the crowd and news when they both entered and and left the building. Plus the mayor released them and sent them on the job.

Sure. They entered the building and they left the building. But what did they actually do? As far the public is concerned they could have just been hiding out during the event and then jumped in and took credit afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/32 "2014-09-05T15:39:00Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> When the demon dog thing first shows up at Rick Moranis’s character’s apartment during the party, it chases him out and possess him. Rick runs out of his apartment, across the street, hops over a wall, and towards this glass-walled, fancy restaurant that’s packed with people. For some reason, the door is locked! Why is it locked? It makes no sense at all! Its obviously still dinner time, the restaurant isn’t closed, but he pulls at the door and the stupid waiter just stares at him without helping him!

It’s not the main entrance to the building. You can tell because you don’t see any waiting area for customers, a hostess station, or any other indication that this is a main entrance for the restaurant.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/33 "2014-09-05T18:16:18Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Near the end Ray references the Tunguska Blast as being in 1909. It happened in 1908. Small detail but it bugs me.

[The Tunguska Event](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event) happened in 1908.  
**The Tunguska _Blast_** was a three day interdimensional cross-rip music festival that took place in Krasnoyarsk to mark the one year anniversary of the Tunguska Event.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/34 "2014-09-05T20:30:31Z")

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> [@Balance](#):
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> You mean when it approached him at the windows, and the diners didn’t see it? Once he stopped fleeing (or rather, ran out of places to go and turned at bay), it started to possess him. His perception of it as it approached was in his head; it was no longer physically present, so there was nothing for anyone else to see.
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> In other words, it magically disappeared from view of everyone except him. 😃

I disagree. The humor from that scene stems from the fact that New York City denizens are so wrapped up in their own affairs that even the sight of a demon dog possession was not enough to hold their attention for more than a few moments. I’m convinced all the diners saw the dog.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/35 "2014-09-05T21:41:44Z")

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Louis, The Keymaster, is always getting locked out of places. Think about that.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/36 "2014-09-05T22:59:49Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Louis, The Keymaster, is always getting locked out of places. Think about that.

The Keymaster? No, you want the Keymaker. Look for a Korean guy in a gray jacket.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghostbusters-question/697305/37 "2014-09-05T23:03:22Z")

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> [@GrandWino](#):
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> Louis, The Keymaster, is always getting locked out of places. Think about that.

His key worked on the Gatekeeper, though.

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