# Ghosts of Viet Nam:  Bush, Kerry, and The War

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**Created:** [February 3, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghosts-of-viet-nam-bush-kerry-and-the-war/227374 "2004-02-03T21:20:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ghosts-of-viet-nam-bush-kerry-and-the-war/227374/2 "2004-02-03T21:34:35Z")

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Mr. Bush could certainly do worse than praise Mr. Kerry’s commitment and heroism; they are indeed praiseworthy.

I don’t agree that you’ve proved any case aginst Mr. Bush. The post above is a masterpiece of _argumentum ad ignoratium_: because we don’t know, we assume it to be true.

Even if a friend of Bush’s father asked for preferential treatment in selection as a guardsman, that doesn’t mean that young Bush sought it out; it merely means he got it. You certainly cannot condemn the man for applying to the Guard, as so many others did. It’s a far sight better than dodging the draft or lying to your draft board.

I have always admired Cassius Clay - he didn’t “dodge” anything. He refused, and made it clear he was willing to accept the consequences of that refusal. Bush did not refuse - he joined an organzation where it was possible he’d be called up - although unlikely. That was not the behavior of an eager warrior, I agree, but neither was it craven or sallow.

You have presented no compelling argument for any special treatment that Bush requested. I don’t think Bush needs to say that he was a coward; he was not. But I certainly agree it would be proper and fitting to acknowledge that Kerry’s service to the country took a far more personally dangerous form than Bush’s own did, and that Kerry faced that challenge with honor and dignity, and was a true American hero.

- Rick

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