# Giggle Gaggle, you've got moxie! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 30, 2003, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665 "2003-08-30T17:48:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/81 "2003-09-01T23:11:44Z")
Not too soon I hope. This is getting to be way too much fun. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/82 "2003-09-01T23:18:42Z")
Hey, don’t call for his banning. I’m fascinated that people in the 21st century can still hold such archaic attitudes and opinions. We can study him while he’s here, and come to a better understanding of what causes some humans to get stuck at a primitive evolutionary level (socially and psychologically speaking, of course). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/83 "2003-09-01T23:25:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*Hey, don’t call for his banning. I’m fascinated that people in the 21st century can still hold such archaic attitudes and opinions. > > We can study him while he’s here, and come to a better understanding of what causes some humans to get stuck at a primitive evolutionary level (socially and psychologically speaking, of course). > > 😃 \*\* He just be pedantic. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/84 "2003-09-01T23:39:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by county \* > \*\*He just be pedantic. \*\* Main Entry: ped·ant Pronunciation: 'pe-d&nt Function: noun Etymology: Middle French, from Italian pedante Date: 1588 2 a : one who makes a show of knowledge b : one who is unimaginative or who unduly emphasizes minutiae in the presentation or use of knowledge c : a formalist or precisionist in teaching Main Entry: mo·ron Pronunciation: 'mOr-"än, 'mor- Function: noun Etymology: irregular from Greek mOros foolish, stupid Date: 1910 2 : a very stupid person I think moron fits his description better actually, given that the ‘knowledge’ he spews forth is pretty dodgy. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/85 "2003-09-02T00:37:24Z")
pedant: a narrow minded teacher… (Webster New World Dictionary, College Edition, 1966) Of course “moron” works well also, in fact I use it frequently. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/86 "2003-09-02T02:44:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > \*\*Hey, don’t call for his banning. I’m fascinated that people in the 21st century can still hold such archaic attitudes and opinions. > > We can study him while he’s here, and come to a better understanding of what causes some humans to get stuck at a primitive evolutionary level (socially and psychologically speaking, of course). \*\* Study him? OOOO! Do we get to poke him with electrodes? _hops up and down excitedly_ ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@Angel\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_Heart)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/87 "2003-09-02T03:12:44Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* \*\* And spunk-- lotso spunk-- spray that spunk all over the boards, whydontcha? Yecch! I’d like a little less spunk sprayed on the boards–GG’s posts are the verbal equivalent of one-handed typing. ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/88 "2003-09-02T03:38:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Are we sure **Giggle Gaggle** isn’t a reincarnation of **december**? They could be twins for their debating tactics. \*\* Sounds to me more like \*\*Justhink, \*\* minus the thesaurus and the scrambled philosophy tomes. Maybe we should fix them up? ---
**Author:** ![Azael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@Azael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azael)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/89 "2003-09-02T03:46:22Z")
Well he’s banned now, I guess this one put him over the top > [@](#): > > [_Originally posted by Giggle Gaggle_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3924160#post3924160) > \*\* > That’s too bad for them, but it’s not your problem, is it? > > Fat people and amputees (for instance) also get a raw deal when it comes to dating, but nobody bemoans or even thinks twice about their trouble. Suddenly when race is involved, though, people get all sensitive and politically correct. The whole thing rings hollow and hypocritical. You don’t like them, it’s your taste, you can’t change it, get over it, move on. Some people (or groups of people) are just ugly. Including fat people, amputees, and (it appears from statistics) also black women and Asian men. If they weren’t ugly, they wouldn’t have so much trouble finding dates. > \*\* Classy. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/90 "2003-09-02T03:49:42Z")
You know, people, “Report this post to a moderator” is VERY EFFECTIVE. I just want to repeat this. It works. When you read stuff like what GG wrote, use that link and report it. It works. ---
**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/91 "2003-09-02T04:08:02Z")
Good. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/92 "2003-09-02T04:08:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\*Hey **Rex** , you loser geek nerd-- nice to see ya! I can call you that since you don’t think it’s such a big deal, right? > \*\* You sure can! If I hadn’t been able to get over that sort of thing, I never would have made it out of junior high. See how much fun it is to take nothing seriously, not to get all worked up, to refuse to take offense at trivial remarks? Taking offense only empowers the offender. I’m pretty comfortable in my belief that I’m no longer a “geek” or “nerd” (or at least, only to a mild degree 😉 ), and whether I’m a “loser” depends on what my objectives are, so time will tell if I lose or win at them. Anyways, it doesn’t bother me. But I did clearly state that out of all his remarks, that’s one of a couple I thought were out of hand. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Like I said earlier there are plenty of losers such as yourself with what I consider stupid ideas about male/female relationships-- so defend away you geeky nerd, you. \*\* And so I will, you sassy lass, you 😉 Absent the use of force or deceit to impose one’s idiocy upon others, ignorance harms only the ignorant. So if my ideas (or anyone else’s) about interpersonal relationships are stupid and wrongheaded, well then I’d only be harming myself (and they, themselves.) I’ll rely on what I’ve observed, the specific real-life events of the lives of people around me, over vague assurances to the contrary. It seems that on this subject there are alot of people who like to simply declare that things are a certain way, as if it were just plainly the case and all other viewpoints were reactionary nonsense, but very few people care to really back that assertion up with anything specific. So you might as well leave me to my quirky beliefs, as I’d prefer to be cautious and cynical then be wishful and foolish. But that’s just my little hangup. To each his own, I always say. And so also to **Giggle Gaggle** , whatever he may be. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/93 "2003-09-02T04:13:35Z")
Well, shouldda previewed… He’s banned now, so I suppose there’s no reason to defend _or_ attack him anymore. Making a racist remark was not a smooth move on his part. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/94 "2003-09-02T04:15:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*There is a “power” component of interpersonal relationships that doesn’t go away simply because we wish our relationships to be more egalitarian. Speaking frankly about it may be unusual these days, but I don’t see how anyone could expect to improve their situations and accomplish their goals by denying reality and just wishing things to be better. You have to confront reality and manipulate it to serve your ends. \*\* Well, it is certainly true that all relationships, from work to family to lovers, have a power component. Some, such as in work and family, are mostly hierarchic in structure and while a certain amount of gamesmanship may improve your standing, the power ranking are rather well defined. OTHO, in romantic relationships, roles are no longer as neatly defined as they used to be. And odds are we will not regress to the days of “barefoot and pregnant.” Rightly so, I might add, for I am all for equality between the sexes. So what you’re left with is more of a personality clash on equal terms. But instead of “manipulating reality” to achieve your ends as you suggest, I posit that a much more mature way of dealing with relationships is exactly the opposite. Simply being as honest as you possibly can under all circumstances – including sex of course. Sure, you’ll win some and you’ll lose more. But such is life. As to the issue of the dominant and submissive dynamics between couples, it’s a fascinating topic, one that I’ve devoted endless hours reading and trying to understand. Not really pertinent to go into it here, but again, in my experience the more you know yourself that more comfortable you’ll feel speaking the truth. Fuck games. Unless blinfolds and cuffs are involved of course 😉 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/95 "2003-09-02T05:36:52Z")
Hey, hey, the guy’s a prick, but let’s take the post in context. I’m surprised it’s not locked out and banned on its face. I read the OP title and got shivers. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/96 "2003-09-02T06:13:13Z")
I am just about to start a thread calling for the unbanning of **Giggle whatever**. He was too much fun. Reading his post was like watching someone having convulsions in a china store. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/97 "2003-09-02T08:29:08Z")
By the way… > [@](#): > > anyone who refers to pursuing a female as “chasing pussy” gets an automatic eye roll, dismissive wave and “run along, little boy” from me. Quite reasonable, but can I call chasing guys that? ---
**Author:** ![manwithaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@manwithaplan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manwithaplan)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/98 "2003-09-02T10:45:29Z")
He reminds me of Tom Cruise’s character in Magnolia. I can almost hear him proclaiming “respect the cock and tame the cunt” to a room full of maladjusted halfwits. I’m sure he has a similar array of deep-seated insecurities too. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/99 "2003-09-02T11:07:28Z")
You’re all just mad because he’s right. I mean, we can all agree about the Tesla thing, right? Although I’m not entirely certain he invented the death ray. The “treating women like dogs” comment was a little off. I’m sure he meant to say “human beings” but then his dog walked by or something and he started thinking about dogs. This happens to me a lot, even more actually because I tend to see a lot of things that aren’t even there. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665/100 "2003-09-02T13:06:17Z")
Ah well. The object of my ire as been banned and I asked for this thread to be closed. Was he a conservative do you suppose? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giggle-gaggle-youve-got-moxie/198665.md?page=6)