# Gillette's controversial ad -or- I found the incels! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939 "2019-01-17T19:10:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/101 "2019-01-23T17:24:34Z")
Stolen from FB: > [@](#): > > Gillette ad: Men can be better > > Men: NOT ALL MEN!!! It is a perfect example of ‘fragility’ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/102 "2019-01-24T03:21:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > To be fair, **Steophan** is upset that she was able to do it safely. In his world, the cops should be beating _more_ uppity negroes. Yeah. He’s always there to defend them whenever they beat up or kill **The Wrong Guy**. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/103 "2019-01-24T05:46:40Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > In the case of Rosa Parks, yes, exactly. She wasn’t the first to sit where she wasn’t allowed to, and her actions were _years_ into the civil rigts movement. That she was able to safely do what she did, and get positive publicity for it, shows that the change had already happened. As you might have gathered above, that’s not quite how it happened. Contemporary news accounts sometimes depicted Ms. Parks as being, “Just tired” that day in 1955. I trust she was, sick and tired emotionally if not physically to a great extent on that day. But she had been a member and elected secretary of the NAACP since 1943. She was arrested, tried, and fined for disorderly conduct. The event went somethingk like this: Driver: Are you going to stand up? Rosa: No I’m not. Driver: ‘Well, if you don’t stand up, I’m going to have to call the police and have you arrested.’ Rosa: “You may do that” (Policeman arrives) Rosa: “Why do you push me around?” Policeman: “I don’t know, but the law’s the law, and you’re under arrest.” It isn’t hard to imagine what this board’s stalwart defenders of law and order would have had to say at the time. As noted after the [381 day Montgomery Bus Boycott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montgomery_bus_boycott), a court decision struck down the practice of bullying bus passengers due to their race. Not all were happy. Wiki: Aftermath White backlash against the court victory was quick, brutal, and, in the short-term, effective.[44][45] Two days after the inauguration of desegregated seating, someone fired a shotgun through the front door of Martin Luther King’s home. A day later, on Christmas Eve, white men attacked a black teenager as she exited a bus. Four days after that, two buses were fired upon by snipers. In one sniper incident, a pregnant woman was shot in both legs. On January 10, 1957, bombs destroyed five black churches and the home of Reverend Robert S. Graetz, one of the few white Montgomerians who had publicly sided with the MIA.[46][47] The City suspended bus service for several weeks on account of the violence. According to legal historian Randall Kennedy, “When the violence subsided and service was restored, many black Montgomerians enjoyed their newly recognized right only abstractly … In practically every other setting, Montgomery remained overwhelmingly segregated …” Some see Zeitgeist. I perceive guts and hard work. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/104 "2019-01-24T06:08:11Z")
I had never really realized the sheer amount of white-supremacist terrorism that pervaded the early years of the desegregation movement. I vaguely knew about the Baptist Church bombing and the police dogs and firehoses but I didn’t learn that racist terrorists were bombing and shooting the shit out of pretty much **errybody** standing up against Jim Crow. I wonder if the children and grandchildren of those terrorists know about what they did and what they think of it. Shit, now I’m wondering if my grandfather might have been [a Ku Klux Klan member in the 1920s](https://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=9693&context=annals-of-iowa). > [@](#): > > Yet seventy years ago the Klan of the 1920s— the so-called second Klan—had great appeal to mainstream, middle America in these areas. Nearly three million people joined the ranks of the Invisible Empire in the years from 1921 to 1925, making the second Klan a powerful political and social force from Ohio to Oregon. […] > > Case studies of Youngstown, Memphis, Orange County, and Colorado found that most Klansmen in the 1920s were not marginal, fanatical men from the rural lower class. Using newly located Klan membership lists and newspapers, census data, congressional hearings, and oral history interviews, historians began to construct a different profile. The new Klansman was socially and economically stable, civic minded, from a mainstream Protestant church, and likely to live almost anywhere, including in large cities. […] most Klansmen were financially successful, politically active, belonged to fraternal groups, and attended mainstream Protestant churches […] > > it is not inconceivable that a small but well-organized group or perhaps even an individual might be able to duplicate the Klan’s success. By appealing to emotional social issues and encouraging a “mad as hell” response to an unresponsive government, an opportunistic group might find itself, as the Klan did, at the head of a mass political movement. Huh. That’s from 1992, btw. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/105 "2019-01-24T06:14:13Z")
It is somewhat fun to see how you weave around, **Steophan**. Now you’re claiming Rosa Parks, one of the most famous civil rights activists, was not actually an activist. She literally refused to move when she was told, and went to jail over it. After she got out, she went around pushing her message. She was fired for her activism, and no one would hire her. Her husband quit his job over it. She had to move to a different city to just find work. She got death threats for her activism. She later advocated for a congressman who got elected, and hired her to work for him as his secretary, where she continued her political activism. She marched in several protests, and joined with several activist groups. I’d go on, but you can read [her Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks) just as well as I can. To try and assert that she was not an activist is ridiculous. You’re just redefining words to defend your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939/106 "2019-01-24T08:05:12Z")
I’ve had it up to here with you cucks. I’m going to Carl’s Jr 3 years ago for a blow job. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gillettes-controversial-ad-or-i-found-the-incels/827939.md?page=5)