# Gimme that old-fashioned racism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 5, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133 "2013-11-05T11:45:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/21 "2013-11-05T19:23:44Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwalk]  
How dare you walk around in blueface you horrible racist person.  
[/QUOTE]  
I saw several of [these](http://www.flickr.com/photos/zippercut/4066709287/) racist assholes out there on Halloween!

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**Author:** ![WilyQuixote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f9ae1b/32.png) [@WilyQuixote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WilyQuixote)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/22 "2013-11-05T19:47:59Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Missed this on the first read. I find it absolutely hilarious that her surname is “Black.”

Didn’t a Don Black create everyone’s favourite racist website?

I’m not proud that I remembered that offhand.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/23 "2013-11-05T19:57:53Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> You’ve got to be taught to hate and fear,  
> You’ve got to be taught from year to year,  
> It’s got to be drummed in your dear little ear,  
> You’ve got to be carefully taught.
> 
> You’ve got to be taught to be afraid  
> Of people **whose eyes are oddly made,**  
> And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,  
> You’ve got to be carefully taught.
> 
> You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,  
> Before you are six or seven or eight,  
> To hate all the people your relatives hate,  
> You’ve got to be carefully taught!
> 
> Thank you, Oscar Hammerstein II, for those unfortunately timeless words.  
> Roddy

Emphasis added. I always thought how funny it is that people love that song, and yet you couldn’t get away with those lyrics today.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/24 "2013-11-05T20:29:05Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Racism isn’t born, folks, it’s taught. I have a two-year-old son. You know what he hates? Naps! End of list.
> 
> - Dennis Leary

I disagree with Dennis. It’s glib and all, but kids hate all kinds of shit, including new situations. Drop a two year old in a strange place where the people look different and dress different and he’d flip out. Acceptance of differences has to be taught.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/25 "2013-11-05T21:30:42Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I disagree with Dennis. It’s glib and all, but kids hate all kinds of shit, including new situations. Drop a two year old in a strange place where the people look different and dress different and he’d flip out. Acceptance of differences has to be taught.

True there is a period there were kids are freaked by all kinds of things. While my 4-year-old son has said somebody looked weird, the only times he’s hit other kids were typical 4-year-old hitting situation, i.e. “He took my toy” or “He hit me first.” You have to be taught to want to kill someone for looking different.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/26 "2013-11-05T22:17:28Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Given the former logic, shouldn’t the latter be man with man, woman with woman?

Not into the man with man stuff but woman with woman is my favorite.

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**Author:** ![spotthegerbil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@spotthegerbil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spotthegerbil)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/27 "2013-11-05T22:19:36Z")

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I was probably in primary 3 before I realised that my best friend from playgroup, someone who I had played with for at least four years wasn’t white like the rest of the class. I’m not observant enough to be racist. All that was important to us was that he could lay the stinkiest farts on God’s green earth, and when you are seven, that is far more important than the colour of someone’s skin.

Although with hindsight, having a farting Smurf in class would have been awesome.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/28 "2013-11-05T22:28:42Z")

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I found myself getting annoyed with people who see no difference between dressing up as Trayvon Martin, with your buddy pointing a gun-hand at your head for the funny picture, and dressing up as Crazy Eyes, because she’s awesome, hilarious and kinda scary.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/29 "2013-11-05T22:34:32Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I disagree with Dennis. It’s glib and all, but kids hate all kinds of shit, including new situations. Drop a two year old in a strange place where the people look different and dress different and he’d flip out. Acceptance of differences has to be taught.

Plus, I think xenophobia is part of human nature. My take is that you have to be taught not to hate. You’ll learn to hate naturally, all things being equal.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/30 "2013-11-05T23:12:40Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> … _"It’s supposed to be white with white, black with black, man with …_[URL=“[http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/Mother-Responds-to-Controversy-After-Son-Dresses-as-Klansman-for-Halloween--230306501.html](http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/Mother-Responds-to-Controversy-After-Son-Dresses-as-Klansman-for-Halloween--230306501.html)”]

I don’t think shes following her own logic to it’s (ahem) natural conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/31 "2013-11-05T23:57:29Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Given the former logic, shouldn’t the latter be man with man, woman with woman? 😕

Darn tootin’!  
Someone aughta’ tell that woman to stick to her _own kind_.  
Can’t have mixin’ of the sexes now, can we.

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/32 "2013-11-06T00:17:50Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I saw several of [these](http://www.flickr.com/photos/zippercut/4066709287/) racist assholes out there on Halloween!

Blueman group has fallen off on stage attire.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gimme-that-old-fashioned-racism/673133/33 "2013-11-06T10:07:00Z")

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Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

Makes me hate everybody  
Makes me hate everybody  
Makes me hate everybody  
It’s good enough for me

Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

It was good for the K-K-K  
It was good for the K-K-K  
It was good for the K-K-K  
And it’s good enough for me

Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

It was in the antebellum South  
It was in the antebellum South  
It was in the antebellum South  
It’s good enough for me

Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

It will do when I’m lynching  
It will do when I’m lynching  
It will do when I’m lynching  
It’s good enough for me

Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

It shows how ignorant I am  
It shows how ignorant I am  
It shows how ignorant I am  
It’s good enough for me

Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
Oh, give me that old time racism  
It’s good enough for me

_With apologies to David Houston_

Feel free to add your own verses.

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