# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/361 "2021-02-15T15:14:07Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> Don’t be offended if I don’t engage with each one of you [Cultural Marxists](https://thepolicy.us/cultural-marxism-the-origins-of-the-present-day-social-justice-movement-and-political-correctness-ffb89c6ef4f1), I’m actually pretty busy with RL things.

… and yet, not so busy you couldn’t help but admittedly waste your own time in posting this? 🙄

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/362 "2021-02-15T15:17:30Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> Don’t be offended if I don’t engage with each one of you [Cultural Marxists](https://thepolicy.us/cultural-marxism-the-origins-of-the-present-day-social-justice-movement-and-political-correctness-ffb89c6ef4f1), I’m actually pretty busy with RL things.

What’s with all the right wingers flouncing off like this?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/363 "2021-02-15T15:21:13Z")

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Yeah, I’m shocked, shocked that Pedro Pascal also compared his plight to that of the Jews under the Nazis and for months espoused right wing conspiracy theories and yet he’s still employed by Disney.

Oh wait. He didn’t do that? But it’s exactly the same case. So of course he had to have done those things. It’s not like fly by night conservative posters might _gasp_ be wrong about facts!?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/364 "2021-02-15T15:56:51Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Facts? Like the fact that the left can’t read?

“The left can’t read” is exactly the sort of ridiculous anti-reality falsehood that seems to be so popular on the right wing these days.

> [@octopus](#):
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> That tweet wasn’t anti-Semitic but low IQ fools can’t help but to misrepresent the tweet. The tweet is about the dangers of dehumanization of out groups

The tweet compared widespread denunciations of conservatives for unethical and anti-democracy actions that conservatives are actually taking to Nazi dehumanization of Jews for made-up villainies that existed only in antisemitic fantasies.

That is a highly offensive trivialization of what Jews and other victims of the Nazis suffered, all for the sake of letting butthurt conservative snowflakes indulge their self-pity over being called out on their delusional assholery.

And since it was part of a longstanding pattern of conservative delusional assholery on Carano’s part that had already made her quite unpopular with a large chunk of Disney’s viewing public, Disney finally announced they were cutting ties to her.

Only conservative delusional assholes could imagine that any of this sequence of events is in any way meaningfully comparable to Nazi persecution of Jews.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/365 "2021-02-15T16:03:05Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I think **asahi** was talking about that in one thread or something.

Yup, asahi had a bunch of Pit rantings some months or years ago when he was calling for all Republicans to be put in re-education camps and whatnot, and the liberal majority as well as the conservative minority on the Dope soundly smacked him down for it.

Even so, the idea that spewing bile about Republicans in a forum specifically dedicated to intemperate rants is in any way comparable to Nazi persecutions is nothing but the sort of desperate unbalanced bothsidesism that conservatives have to resort to nowadays for lack of any more rationally defensible position.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/366 "2021-02-15T16:12:41Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> Don’t be offended if I don’t engage with each one of you [Cultural Marxists](https://thepolicy.us/cultural-marxism-the-origins-of-the-present-day-social-justice-movement-and-political-correctness-ffb89c6ef4f1), I’m actually pretty busy with RL things.

Well, hard to take seriously a curmudgeon that cites a restaurant Guy. On the whole you just showed that like many MAGAs you do rely on conspiracy theories.

> **[Cultural Marxism](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism)**
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> Cultural Marxism generally refers to one of two things:

The type of Marxism that we follow, as an early poster showed, is closer to this:

[![](https://gamatiasz.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/marxism-groucho-marx1.jpg) ](https://gamatiasz.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/marxism-groucho-marx1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friendlycurmudgeon/32/5786_2.png) [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendlyCurmudgeon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/367 "2021-02-15T16:16:22Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well, hard to take seriously a curmudgeon that cites a restaurant Guy. On the whole you just showed that like many MAGAs you do rely on conspiracy theories.

I’m not American dingus.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/368 "2021-02-15T16:19:47Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> I’m not American dingus -

You don’t have to be American to have a MAGA-like mindset.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/369 "2021-02-15T16:25:54Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> I’m not American dingus.

What kind of dingus are you, then?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/370 "2021-02-15T16:26:08Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> I’m not American dingus.

Neither were the original Nazis that pushed the “Cultural Bolshevism” conspiracy, the Neo-fascists in the US just adopted the modern shape of the conspiracy. And if you had been less of a wanker, you would had read the cite and found that Neo-Fascists in Europe also have adopted the ‘cultural Marxism’ conspiracy theory too.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/371 "2021-02-15T16:36:00Z")

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Well, one correction; that was a link, the cite that I missed is on point:

> The conspiracist usage originated in [Nazi Germany](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nazism), where _Kulturbolschewismus_ (“Cultural Bolshevism”) was used to abuse political opponents. In particular, Jews purportedly were [secretly orchestrating the spread of Communism](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/International_Jewish_Conspiracy) ([Jewish Bolshevism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism) as well as [promoting sexual & gender permissiveness](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kinder,_K%C3%BCche,_Kirche) (“[sexual Bolshevism](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sexual_Bolshevism)”).[[7]](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism#cite_note-8)
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> If anyone rants about “Cultural Marxists taking over culture!”, feel free to remind them that they’re [spouting _literal_ Nazi propaganda updated for the modern era](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism).

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/372 "2021-02-15T17:13:34Z")

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Just to clarify: I was asking octopus to bring some facts to the table or drop the charge. I wasn’t even remotely talking about Andy Ngo as a victim of cancel culture.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/373 "2021-02-15T17:46:04Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I was asking octopus to bring some facts to the table or drop the charge

Hah! That’s never going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/374 "2021-02-15T18:04:05Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> Wow, there’s way more leftists on the SDMB than I thought, and I thought this would be better than reddit.

Really? It’s right there in the masthead: “Fighting Ignorance Since 1973.”

You don’t attract much of a conservative audience with a rallying cry like that.

> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> The Mandalorian‘s leading man [Pedro Pascal made the same comparison](https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/firepedropascal-trends-disney-drops-gina-carano-mandalorian/) three years ago. But since it attacks Republican policy a socially acceptable use of it which by the way Obama followed the same policy during his presidency - odd we only heard about kids in cages when Trump was in power, strange huh ?

So, case in point. The idea that Obama followed the same policy as the Trump administration is a lie. Are you aware it’s a lie, or are you just too dumb to tell the difference? In the end, it’s mostly a moot point - you either know it’s a lie, and will continue to lie about this, and other political issues, until you finally get banned for trolling. Or, you’re just a garden variety dipshit who genuinely thinks its true - which means that you regularly blow past reliable, factual sources of information in favor of clumsy lies that comport with your prejudices. In which case, you’re going to end up angry and frustrated that people keep deflating your right wing delusions with facts and logic, and storm off in a huff of pseudoscience and magical thinking.

Either way, the end result is the same: an overwhelmingly left-wing board, because there’s basically no real audience for reasoned, fact-based debate on the right anymore.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/375 "2021-02-15T18:41:04Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What kind of dingus are you, then?

I’ll give 2:1 odds ‘Small’. Any takers…?

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Make sure to send her lots of money to help her cause.

And when you’re done, send more money to help protect America from radical socialists like Tom Steyer and Mike Bloomberg and Warren Buffet. Lots of money. You need to Save The Soul of America, and Lara Trump needs $15,000 a month in order to do that.

Then send money to re-elect Trump. Send more money to help Ivanka beat Marco Rubio. Then send money to Diamond and Silk, to Kim Guilfoyle. Help the cause by sending money to Rudy and Steve Bannon. Buy Don Jr’s book from his website. It’s cheaper on Amazon once you get to the bottom line, but his website doubles as an intelligence test, they don’t want to waste time engaging with smart people.

And, if you still have any money left, you better buy a generator and enough freeze-dried food for a couple of years and a table with a concealed compartment for your gun and maybe some iodine in case things go nuclear. And gold, lots of gold. Because, radical leftists…they’re coming for you, whatever that means. But even though no one can really tell you what it means, they know you’re going to have to spend a lot of money to prevent it.

The whole thing’s a scam and _ **you’re** _ the mark. You are as stupid and incurious and gullible as every moron that ever tried to help a deposed Nigerian prince. You’re an idiot,

But feel free to spend the next few years shaking your tiny impotent dick at the sky while your wallet is being drained. Please. It’s really fun to watch.

I never though an impotent conservative dick could give me a liberal orgasm, but the last three months have been like a honeymoon in Paris. Every single time Trump lost the election, lost another court battle, racked up another loss in in his quest to become the biggest loser ever, I had another liberal orgasm. There was one epic day where he lost five times and I was exhausted, completely spent. Yet Trump was so tireless in his quest to lose that he was back at it first thing the next morning, racking up yet another loss. I still get starry-eyed whenever I relive the memory of the night you lost Georgia.

There is nothing funnier than a bunch of bloodied losers, crushed into the dirt by defeat, trying to pretend they won.

Us \*radical socialists, the people that kicked your grifting Republican asses in the last election, we have a technological society to run and you have no place in it.

When the battle comes down to the US federal government and the technology companies and big business versus a bunch of savages with Ford F150’s and clubs, I know where I’m putting my money.

Better buy those iodine tablets, dude. The Globalist Storm is Here, and it’s going to cost you a lot of money.

And you will still lose because you are a terroristic savages that have no place in polite society.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > What kind of dingus are you, then?
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> I’ll give 2:1 odds ‘Small’. Any takers…? -

Not even with someone else’s quatloo.

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**Author:** ![FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friendlycurmudgeon/32/5786_2.png) [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriendlyCurmudgeon)\
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> [@Miller](#):
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> Really? It’s right there in the masthead: “Fighting Ignorance Since 1973.”
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> You don’t attract much of a conservative audience with a rallying cry like that.

What exam did you have to pass in order to be able to “fight ignorance” here ? Cute though, I remember some kids growing up that had their own little bicycle gang too.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/379 "2021-02-15T19:31:13Z")

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> What exam did you have to pass in order to be able to “fight ignorance” here ?

The toughest: neverending peer review, at the hands of a bunch of fellow overinformed, nitpick-addicted smartasses.

We’re not actually hung up on credentials in the abstract around here, though. We have some PhD world experts in a bunch of fields, but we’ve also got a lot of amateur aficionados who just happen to know a lot about some subject or other.

There tends not to be a whole lot of pulling rank or flashing one’s diplomas or test scores (at least not since the lately departed SlackerInc has been gone) to establish one’s authority to fight ignorance. The only required qualifications are a commitment to rational understanding of a subject, and a willingness to recognize factual reality and put in the effort to learn stuff that you didn’t know before.

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> [@FriendlyCurmudgeon](#):
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> What exam did you have to pass in order to be able to “fight ignorance” here ? Cute though, I remember some kids growing up that had their own little bicycle gang too.

The exam happens every day, just as John Green from the excellent Crash Course channel tell us (with help of real teachers too, so don’t fret)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Yocja_N5s1I/maxresdefault.jpg "The Agricultural Revolution: Crash Course World History #1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yocja_N5s1I)

> Hello, learned and astonishingly attractive pupils. My name is John Green and I want to welcome you to Crash Course World History. Over the next forty weeks together, we will learn how in a mere fifteen thousand years humans went from hunting and gathering…
> 
> [School Mr. Green from the past] Mr. Green, Mr. Green! Is this gonna be on the test?
> 
> **Yeah, about the test: The test will measure whether you are an informed, engaged, and productive citizen of the world, and it will take place in schools and bars and hospitals and dorm-rooms and in places of worship. You will be tested on first dates; in job interviews; while watching football; and while scrolling through your Twitter feed.**
> 
> **The test will judge your ability to think about things other than celebrity marriages; whether you’ll be easily persuaded by empty political rhetoric; and whether you’ll be able to place your life and your community in a broader context.**
> 
> **The test will last your entire life, and it will be comprised of the millions of decisions that, when taken together, make your life yours. And everything — everything — will be on it. I know, right? So pay attention.**

.  
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One funny bit about his later presentations, his laptop had a sticker saying:

“[This machine kills fascists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_machine_kills_fascists)”

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