# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/561 "2021-02-21T06:57:28Z")
Indeed, you can’t “both sides” this; there’s no such popular support of CTs on the American left, or anywhere on the political spectrum in most countries of the developed world. A large contingent of Republican voters right now are basically immune to facts; they only trust people who are telling them what they want to hear. And they think politics is essentially a fight; the idea that both parties should want to help people, and should generally agree on most trivial things is completely absent. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/562 "2021-02-22T03:57:21Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Yeah… why does that surprise you? That does surprise me actually. Same as I would be surprised if people wore “I’m a dumbass who gave money to a billionaire” masks. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/563 "2021-02-22T04:02:26Z")
lame… ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/564 "2021-02-22T04:19:46Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Same as I would be surprised if people wore “I’m a dumbass who gave money to a billionaire” masks. Jury’s still out on whether Trump’s actually a billionaire, mind you, although that doesn’t make his supporters less dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/565 "2021-02-22T04:25:06Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Jury’s still out on whether Trump’s actually a billionaire, mind you, although that doesn’t make his supporters less dumbass Fair enough. “I gave money to a guy who I think is a billionaire because he told me he was” ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/566 "2021-02-22T19:36:57Z")
2.5 billion according to Forbes. > **[Donald Trump](https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/?sh=4de3d46d47bd)** > > \#343 Donald Trump on the 2022 Forbes 400 - New York Attorney General Letitia James sued Trump and his business in September 2022, saying the Trump Organization ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/567 "2021-02-22T19:45:14Z")
He has routinely lied to Forbes. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/568 "2021-02-22T19:47:04Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > 2.5 billion according to Forbes. - > [Donald Trump](https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/?sh=4de3d46d47bd) According to that, he was worth 4.5B in March 2016. Looks like the genius lost bigly. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/569 "2021-02-22T19:51:48Z")
“Meanwhile, Bloomburg’s latest valuation comes in even lower at $3bn. Analysts looked at a range of information when compiling their estimates, including Trump’s financial disclosure to the Federal Election Commission last year, mortgage filings, property records, annual reports, hotel reports and interviews with people familiar with his assets.” > **[Fact Check: The truth behind Donald Trump's net worth | The Week UK](https://www.theweek.co.uk/77243/fact-check-the-truth-behind-donald-trumps-net-worth)** > > How much money does the billionaire president actually have? Is this a better source? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/570 "2021-02-22T20:01:57Z")
Since Trump’s tax returns are going to the NY Grand Jury we might have even better info on his wealth. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/571 "2021-02-22T20:03:08Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Is this a better source? Well, it’s no “better” in the sense of not having any more certainty about what are ultimately just estimates based largely on whatever Trump feels like telling people. Trump has always described a lot of his net worth as being in the value of his “brand”, for which there’s no objective metric. But presumably the subject of Trump’s quantifiable wealth is going to become more transparent as various investigations continue to move through the courts. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/572 "2021-02-22T20:08:37Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > > > Is this a better source? > > Well, it’s no “better” in the sense of not having any more certainty about what are ultimately just estimates based largely on whatever Trump feels like telling people. Did you read this part? “property records, annual reports, hotel reports and interviews with people familiar with his assets” Those things are not something Trump said. Would it pain you too much to accept reality and agree that Trump is a billionaire? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/573 "2021-02-22T20:14:17Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Would it pain you too much to accept reality and agree that Trump is a billionaire? Who has said definitively that he isn’t? I think you’re arguing against a strawman. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/574 "2021-02-22T20:17:17Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Did you read this part? > “property records, annual reports, hotel reports and interviews with people familiar with his assets” > Those things are not something Trump said. Did you read the part that occurred just before your carefully-excerpted quote? > [@](#): > > Analysts looked at a range of information when compiling their estimates, including Trump’s financial disclosure to the Federal Election Commission last year, mortgage filings, property records, annual reports, hotel reports and interviews with people familiar with his assets. Uh, yeah, that does mean that their estimate is based largely on whatever Trump felt like telling the FEC. > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Would it pain you too much to […] agree that Trump is a billionaire? Not in the least: the more money Trump has, the more likely it is that his various creditors can actually get paid what he owes them, once the courts force him to. But I’m not about to jump to the conclusion that Trump necessarily is a billionaire until and unless it’s verifiably confirmed. Trump has spent most of his career shamelessly lying and bullshitting about himself and everything else, and consequently any evaluation of his status that’s significantly dependent on his own reporting should not be implicitly relied on. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/575 "2021-02-22T20:18:54Z")
Fair enough. I will end the highjack. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/576 "2021-02-23T02:12:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Since Trump’s tax returns are going to the NY Grand Jury we might have even better info on his wealth. Maybe. Tax returns are about income, not assets. There are lots of ways to control assets without owning them, live off lending based on them, and have no income from them. So they don’t appear at all. To be sure, some tax return data is more informative than no return data. But until the prosecution gets every return from every Trumply enterprise & foundation & shell company, and then gets the “books” of all of them, and then assembles a complete picture, we’ll be left looking at individual pixels trying to guess what it’s a picture of. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/577 "2021-02-23T03:38:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > lame… Would you like one of us to get you a crutch…? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/578 "2021-02-23T03:40:13Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Is this a better source? I’m holding out for the valuation done by Cy Vance, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2021, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/579 "2021-02-23T06:15:46Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Maybe. Tax returns are about income, not assets. Agreed, that’s why I said “we _might_ have better info” in my statement. It also might not reveal anything. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/580 "2021-02-24T02:23:09Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Left-wing environmental groups tried to kill the Cassini mission, for God’s sake. Oh I either want a cite on this, or a retraction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=30)