# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/581 "2021-02-24T02:49:45Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Oh I either want a cite on this, or a retraction It had a plutonium power source which freaked a handful of people out (as they feared it would be spread around if the mission failed and exploded in the upper atmosphere). More interestingly Cassini’s plunge into Saturn was done for “environmental” reasons, potentially - after passing through a plume coming up from Enceladus and discovering that beneath the icy surface the moon has a warm, salty water core, it was decided to end the mission by disposing of the craft in Saturn, just in case it was carrying any Earth microbes that had survived the journey and could contaminate a life bearing moon of Saturn. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/582 "2021-02-24T09:20:59Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > More interestingly Cassini’s plunge into Saturn was done for “environmental” reasons, potentially - after passing through a plume coming up from Enceladus and discovering that beneath the icy surface the moon has a warm, salty water core, it was decided to end the mission by disposing of the craft in Saturn, just in case it was carrying any Earth microbes that had survived the journey and could contaminate a life bearing moon of Saturn. And this is why we have the job with the World’s Coolest Title: [Planetary Protection Office](https://sma.nasa.gov/sma-disciplines/planetary-protection)r. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/583 "2021-02-24T15:48:34Z")
I generally think people should be allowed to say dumb things. And I think way too many people, on both sides, that make dumb holocaust comparisons. However, if she cared about her job, she should have been cognizant of the fact that Disney was looking for a reason to fire her. Hell, there’s rumors that she was essentially fired back in November, with Disney just looking for another excuse to make it public. Imo, if you want to make troll posts, make an anonymous account. Do you have to “famously” troll? Anyway, I highly doubt she wasn’t given any internal warnings. You get warnings, you do what your employer says, if you want to keep your job. Just like everybody else. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/584 "2021-02-24T16:12:23Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > Imo, if you want to make troll posts, make an anonymous account. Do you have to “famously” troll? And that’s a good point. If she were posting here, and made such statements, the worst she would get is a warning or a banning. She is posting as a celebrity, using her platform as a celebrity to help to increase her reach. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/585 "2021-02-24T16:17:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > What do you call it when the first time you hear someone’s name is when they are being canceled? Le Snack. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/586 "2021-02-24T16:39:20Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Oh I either want a cite on this, or a retraction. Many deep-space probes utilize plutonium as their power source. If a significant mass of plutonium were vaporized in the atmosphere upwind of a city, it could cause serious health problems for thousands if not millions of people. The 1997 Cassini mission carried 72 pounds of plutonium. That’s a molar fuckton of plutonium. It’s more than any previous space mission and more than the biggest nuclear bombs. Caution and scrutiny were absolutely warranted in that case. But to say “the environmentalists wanted to cancel Cassini” is just lowkey ignorance combined with lowkey dishonesty. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/587 "2021-02-24T16:44:06Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Oh I either want a cite on this, or a retraction [Here](http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9710/04/cassini/). Basically some nuts got panties twisted over the spacecraft’s [RTG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator), a pretty common component of deep space missions. There’s an RTG on Perseverence, the craft that just landed on Mars. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/588 "2021-03-16T22:39:20Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > Don’t be too sure about that - we get a lot Republican supporters buying CBD and other such things where I work. I hear that in states where THC is legal it crosses party lines with no problems > > How do you know they are Republican supporters? Late, but… Much like a militant vegan, they are very quick to let you know. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/589 "2021-03-17T00:09:27Z")
Republicans are hugely into CBD, politically - especially Mitch McConnell. The entire supplement industry is full of opportunities for grift. > **[Watch Mitch McConnell Frolic In A Field Of Cannabis](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2020/01/10/watch-mitch-mcconnell-frolic-in-a-field-of-cannabis/?sh=2841c3ae6d9a)** > > The majority leader's campaign posted B-roll footage of him having a great time in a hemp field. > **[2019 Person of the Year: Senator Mitch McConnell - WholeFoods Magazine](https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/supplements/features-supplements/2019-person-of-the-year-senator-mitch-mcconnell/)** > > Est. reading time: 16 minutes ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/590 "2021-03-18T23:48:59Z")
> **[Vogue and Alexi McCammond part ways after uproar over racist tweets](https://www.nbcnews.com/media/vogue-alexi-mccammond-part-ways-uproar-racist-tweets-rcna445)** > > Several staff members had protested McCammond’s hiring based on tweets from 2011 in which she made derogatory remarks about Asian people and gay people. And down goes McCammond. Just weeks after her boyfriend went down for going mafia on a Politico reporter. I agree that the tweets are horrible - and the fact that they were made 10 years ago when she was a teenager doesn’t change the fact that they still needed to be confronted. What I question is this idea that you have to threaten someone’s future to make whatever point SJWs are trying to make. “Well it was a business decision” – Yes, I get that. But I think businesses, like all people, have a civic responsibility to act reasonably, and to make reasonable decisions. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/591 "2021-03-19T00:01:43Z")
It’s not about ‘justice’ or ‘atonement.’ It’s about exploiting wokeness for power. Instead of exploiting class differences the loons on the far left and their cowardly enablers are exploiting a victimhood hierarchy. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/592 "2021-03-19T00:02:59Z")
I’m not even sure what this reference to SJWs is supposed to be. The point the magazine staff had was that there were plenty of other qualified candidates for the position without the baggage and/or with a better record of dealing with their historically shitty behavior. Her boyfriend’s “defense” of her did not help at all. That sort of abuse of power compounds the problem. And after Conde Nast backed McCammond, their other point was that Conde Nast doesn’t exactly have the greatest history with dealing with these sorts of situations. That whole situation with Kamala Harris’ Vogue cover is hardly a few months old. And if you have the likes of molluscs of dubious intelligence agreeing with you, it’s a good time to question one’s position. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/593 "2021-03-19T00:03:17Z")
I wouldn’t say that; I think it’s about wanting to see someone suffer because they have thoughts that remind us of some sort of hurt we’ve experienced, and I get that on some level. But I don’t just firing someone’s ass makes racism go away; it becomes a cliched response after a while. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/594 "2021-03-19T00:06:30Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The point the magazine staff had was that there were plenty of other qualified candidates for the position without the baggage and/or with a better record of dealing with their historically shitty behavior. Yes, in other words, “it was a business decision,” which I get, as I said. I don’t think it’s a reasonable reaction. I think a lot of internet shaming is understandable on an emotional level but not necessarily helpful. When someone gets fired for not being woke enough, it doesn’t make the person who gets shit canned any more woke; it either hurts people who already have changed and who get it, or it makes those who are less woke dig in deeper and fight against their detractors. It does nothing to fight racism or intolerance. Absolutely nothing. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/595 "2021-03-19T00:07:14Z")
Even if the idea is good, which is nominally working to end bigotry, the arbitrariness and disproportionate magnitude of the mob is why the concept of due process is so important and mob rule is dangerous. People on the left foolishly believe they can control the woke mob and use it to push an agenda that normal democracy takes too long to enact. Well this woke mob is not controllable and it’s going to get nuttier. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/596 "2021-03-19T00:08:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > It does nothing to fight racism or intolerance. Absolutely nothing. It scares people away from being racist in the future by demonstrating the consequences of that behavior. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/597 "2021-03-19T00:11:20Z")
I don’t think the left think they’re controlling anyone; they’re not weaponizing a mob. I think that’s kinda ‘out there’, actually. Various constituencies believe that they are doing good by potentially scaring others from making similarly offensive comments. Again, I get the logic. Show people you mean business – fire those who say this crap and send a message that this won’t be tolerated, and that there will be consequences. I don’t know…I think sometimes we all say shit we regret. If someone recorded some of the shit I’ve said in private I’m sure I would have been fired 10 or 15 times. I am still a very compassionate and ‘woke’ guy for the most part. I’d be bitter as hell if someone used one bad moment against me and harmed my ability to earn a living. It wouldn’t make me more tolerant. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/598 "2021-03-19T00:13:00Z")
It scares some people into silence; it doesn’t prevent them from silently serving as a general manager and discriminating against people. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/599 "2021-03-19T00:13:35Z")
No it doesn’t. First of all the increasing ludicrousness of what is or isn’t racist or bigoted makes the whole concept of racism a joke. Secondly, it alienates would be yet rational allies. Finally, the internal intellectual contradictions in the woke movement leads to bigotry within the woke movement. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/600 "2021-03-19T00:15:42Z")
You have a more generous and optimistic outlook on human nature than I do. I’ve never seen a movement in human history based upon a never ending malleable set of standards of ideological purity that has ended well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=31)