# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/621 "2021-03-19T02:42:28Z")
Actually, some Republicans do belong in education camps. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/622 "2021-03-19T02:46:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I know few people who’ve never said something that couldn’t be turned into cringe under the wrong circumstances. I can think of very non-racist people of both genders, of multiple ethnic backgrounds, who’ve said “jokes” or made “comments” that some might take offense to. This framing bothers me. We’re not talking about something someone said that could be “turned into cringe in the right circumstances.” We’re not talking about joke or comments “That some might take offense to.” We’re talking about racism. We’re talking about comments that are blatantly racist, that could not be uttered by someone who wasn’t racist at that time. Here is the one screenshot I’ve found so far: [![](https://images.hindustantimes.com/img/2021/03/12/original/Teen-Vogue-Staff-Protest-Alexi-McCammond-Tweets-part-1_1615551209573.jpg) ](https://images.hindustantimes.com/img/2021/03/12/original/Teen-Vogue-Staff-Protest-Alexi-McCammond-Tweets-part-1_1615551209573.jpg) These are all comments that show a person who is deeply racist against Asian people. In the third tweet, she even uses “asian” like it was the n-word. Most people don’t say things like this. I knew better at age 17, and I grew up in a Republican household in a town with known white supremacy problems. I can count the number of Asian people I’ve met in real life on one hand. This sort of framing, making blatantly racist shit equivalent to the stupid things every kid has said only excuses racism. You’ve got to realize that these are different. Racism isn just something people find offensive. It isn’t just childish stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/623 "2021-03-19T02:47:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Actually, some Republicans do belong in education camps. Absolutely. If you’re going to defend concentration camps, then maybe fuck off pretending you don’t support racism. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/624 "2021-03-19T02:48:37Z")
_I vote for the Democratic party_ _They want the U.N. to be strong_ _I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts_ _He sure gets me singing those songs_ _I’ll send all the money you ask for_ _But don’t ask me to come on along_ _So love me, love me, love me, I’m ~~a liberal~~ asahi_ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/625 "2021-03-19T02:52:16Z")
I don’t support putting people in death camps, but there’s a part of me that supports putting neo-confederates in education camps. Not that I believe it would happen. Not even that I would actually believe that it’s a great idea in practicum. But in Asahi’s fantasy world…yeah, put Madison Cawthorn in a fucking 24/7 camp where he’s waterboarded with facts. I stand by that. I will until the day I die, and none of your Moaist shit is going to convince me otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/626 "2021-03-19T02:53:36Z")
asahi the boards very own _Juror #10_. “There’s a, there’s a danger here. These people are dangerous. They’re wild. Listen to me. Listen.” “We have. Now sit down and don’t open your mouth again.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/627 "2021-03-19T03:04:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I know few people who’ve never said something that couldn’t be turned into cringe under the wrong circumstances. I can think of very non-racist people of both genders, of multiple ethnic backgrounds, who’ve said “jokes” or made “comments” that some might take offense to. Yup, and sometimes those cringeworthy offensive comments come back to bite them. I have no problem with the fact that sometimes this negative reaction significantly affects otherwise liberal decent people as well as seriously asshole conservatives. > [@asahi](#): > > I don’t support putting people in death camps, but there’s a part of me that supports putting neo-confederates in education camps. I know you don’t mean that seriously, but still I’m not down with this rather arbitrary double standard where past racist and homophobic remarks by an otherwise liberal young black journalist automatically deserve to be passed over because otherwise they will allegedly “define” the “rest of her fucking life”, while neo-confederate ideology earns literal forced incarceration in a re-education camp. No. I think illegal behavior should be legally penalized, and legal anti-social behavior should be counteracted with public disapproval, and no self-appointed censor of public morals should determine who deserves punishment and who gets granted immunity. Let public opinion and the marketplace work these things out on a case-by-case basis. Some of the consequences are bound to be arguably somewhat unfair in one direction or the other, and there will always be people arguing that some individual got punished too harshly or unfairly got a pass. But that’s preferable to trying to impose any kind of decree about what people are or are not allowed to be upset about. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/628 "2021-03-19T03:09:32Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > when telling time and addition are oppressive elements of the white supremacy patriarchy More drooling anti-liberal hyperbole about alleged “wokeness” in early childhood education. No, as a matter of fact no liberal activists or educators are actually advocating that children not be taught to tell time or do addition. Liberal educators are in fact devoting evenings and weekends to their mission of helping children understand and learn math, while you lazily fart out slanderous conservative propaganda about them on anonymous messageboards. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/629 "2021-03-19T03:16:55Z")
I absolutely sincerely believe that you did not post any ugly thoughts on social media in 1981. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/630 "2021-03-19T03:26:48Z")
I absolutely guarantee it! 😄 But you’ll notice that what I claimed was that I didn’t make bigoted remarks against gay or Asian people (or other minority groups, for that matter) in public or private, which back then of course did not include social media. I mean, it’s not as though I deserve a cookie or anything for that very basic level of social decency, and to the extent that any cookies are deserved they probably belong to my parents and teachers and friends for modeling decent behavior. But even back in 1981 those standards of basic social decency were not really that uncommon, so I don’t see why one shouldn’t consider them applicable thirty years later as well. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/631 "2021-03-19T03:33:24Z")
Laughing at Woke nonsense about so-called ‘Whiteness’ or cultural appropriation is not slanderous. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/632 "2021-03-19T03:37:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But in Asahi’s fantasy world…yeah, put Madison Cawthorn in a fucking 24/7 camp where he’s waterboarded with facts. I stand by that. I will until the day I die, and none of your Moaist shit is going to convince me otherwise. Waterboarding is a form of torture. So you are saying you support torturing people in your “fantasy world.” Just like you were saying you support “education camps”—which are places where you torture people until they are brainwashed to agree with you. These are all horrible things to say. I have no idea what Maoism has to with anything I’m saying. That sort of comment only makes you come off like the Trump supporters who start whining about communism or socialism. And it’s also Trumpian deflection—saying and doubling down on something awful to deflect from having to respond to arguments. You can, if you choose, keep saying these awful things. But then, if someone actually takes you seriously, and you wind up facing consequences for it (like Carano or McCammond), you have no one to blame but yourself. These aren’t things that could be construed as offensive. They are genuinely awful things to say. A smart person would stop saying them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/633 "2021-03-19T03:42:12Z")
_pfffft_ “Waterboarding with facts” can ONLY be a metaphor. That said being continuously exposed to inescapable facts _would_ be torture to the likes of Cawthorn. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/634 "2021-03-19T03:43:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > _pfffft_ “Waterboarding with facts” can ONLY be a metaphor. No man, I insist – take it literally!!! People could fucking die if you waterboard them with air!!! 🥱 😤 🤓 🤮 🤥 😖 👽 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/635 "2021-03-19T03:52:11Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Laughing at Woke nonsense What you’re actually laughing at is myths about “wokeness” made up by conservative propaganda sources. Like when you lamented in another thread about alleged “segregated graduation ceremonies”. It simply went right over your head that what was really being referred to in your conservative clickbait source was not in fact segregated graduation ceremonies, but rather additional celebrations held by student groups for their members who also participate in the one unified official graduation ceremony for all the graduates. I mean, you can go on laughing and pearl-clutching and outraging over all the alleged “woke nonsense” you read about in conservative clickbait all you want, of course. You can also be thrilled and horrified about alleged “historical reportage” on BatBoy and Bigfoot and Hillary Clinton’s alien love child that you read about in old copies of the Weekly World News, if you want. But in neither case should anybody else take it for granted that the assertions you’re babbling on about have anything significant to do with actual reality. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/636 "2021-03-19T04:09:57Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > _pfffft_ “Waterboarding with facts” can ONLY be a metaphor. > > That said being continuously exposed to inescapable facts _would_ be torture to the likes of Cawthorn. No, it very well can be seen as literal, given that he had just previously said that he supported reeducation camps for Republicans. I guarantee you that, if he posted both of these this on Twitter under his real name, there are people who would take it literally. You’re also ignoring over half my post, and thus missing most of the point. You ignored the part where I said he was deflecting, bringing up a topic that has nothing at all to do with the topic of the thread, and avoiding answering to what I said in my previous post. He’s now pulling a very troll-like response. I’ve essentially accused him of being a racist as a kid and borrowing Trump’s rhetorical strategy, and he’s laughing about it? People don’t laugh like that when you insult them, unless the point was to make you angry. I’m actually starting to think he’s still a racist today, too. Why else is he using the same exact arguments as known racists DemonTree, damuriajashi, and such? Why do racists facing consequences get him to make pit threads? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/637 "2021-03-19T04:10:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I can think of very non-racist people of both genders, of multiple ethnic backgrounds, who’ve said “jokes” or made “comments” that some might take offense to. Yeah. I have a dark sense of humor and so do a lot of my friends. My husband and I have definitely joked about things we would never joke about around anyone else, not because we’re racist but because we’re irreverently mocking racist culture. I’m not stupid enough to post that shit on social media but I’m sure some people would be offended if it ever got out. That’s why I think of stuff like what happened to Justine Sacco with some degree of trepidation. Her joke was offensive, but it was founded on her knowledge of social justice issues. She was joking about her own white privilege. And for that she got “you deserve to be raped and get AIDS” and “someone should cut out your uterus” etc. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/638 "2021-03-19T04:19:03Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But in Asahi’s fantasy world…yeah, put Madison Cawthorn in a fucking 24/7 camp where he’s waterboarded with facts. I stand by that. I will until the day I die, and none of your Moaist shit is going to convince me otherwise. Jesus Christ, could you stop providing grist for the mill? Every time you say horrible shit like this, a Republican gets its wings. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/639 "2021-03-19T04:31:44Z")
Why am I picturing _Night on Bald Mountain_ from _Fantasia_? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/640 "2021-03-19T09:40:04Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > No, it very well can be seen as literal, given that he had just previously said that he supported reeducation camps for Republicans Actually, he said “education camps”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=33)