# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/781 "2021-03-20T04:21:23Z")
I think I’m the victim of autocorrect but it certainly possible that I had a brain fart. I’m sure that’s the first one this year. Out of curiosity I looked up the release date of Officer and a Gentleman and it was 1982 so the boys I’m thinking of were probably 12. Then I got to thinking about some of the quotes from that movie; I don’t think a lot of them would fly today. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/782 "2021-03-20T05:06:49Z")
HA! I KNEW they got it from _AOAAG_ (which I always referred to as “that movie about those two guys”)! BTW, I saw a screenshot of that editor woman’s tweet, and what I really want to know is: did she ever pass that chemistry course? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/783 "2021-03-20T05:19:45Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Nobody has said this. Sure, but what if they **did?** ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/784 "2021-03-20T10:25:58Z")
Try it, you might like it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/785 "2021-03-20T10:39:38Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > _shrug_ I’m guessing you don’t remember everything about your teens. Maybe you can just fuck off with the insinuating I’m senile or a liar crap, then. There’s nothing “spectacular” about not being a misogynistic prick, even in your teens. And excusing it, as you’re doing, is a _big_ part of the problem. Any “boys will be boys” asshole, like you, should _not_ be in charge of teens. You’ll do nothing to break the cycle and just prep more young men for patriarchy like your forbears did to you. > [@Deeg](#): > > I will rarely hold anyone accountable for something they did as a teen. Dude, teens can and do steal, rape, murder. They’re not _babies_. Especially _late_ teens, as she was. Damn straight they should be held accountable. Not _the same_ as adults, for various reasons, but they’re thinking beings _with_ accountability. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/786 "2021-03-20T10:42:57Z")
Not much room with his head in there. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/787 "2021-03-20T10:45:25Z")
It’s not a very big head, I’m guessing, since it seems to have so little brain. I’m sure there’s room for a saguaro or two. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/788 "2021-03-20T13:31:05Z")
No thanks. I’ll just have to take your word for it. Must have been a peak experience for you. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/789 "2021-03-20T13:42:49Z")
What makes you think that the “woke left” isn’t doing the exact same thing – judging these situations on an individual, case-by-case basis ? We don’t read about the airplanes that _don’t_ crash. There are two metrics here that are both continua: - What constitutes a ‘crime’ - What constitutes an appropriate consequence Collectively, society is placing pins at points along both lines. That really seems to be the nature of the disagreement: where each pin _should_ be placed. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/790 "2021-03-20T15:19:51Z")
Lol, the entire world is turning into message board culture where the SDMB bannings of yesteryear are being writ large on the overall society. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/791 "2021-03-20T15:57:46Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > When someone gets fired for not being woke enough, it doesn’t make the person who gets shit canned any more woke; it either hurts people who already have changed and who get it, or it makes those who are less woke dig in deeper and fight against their detractors. It does nothing to fight racism or intolerance. Absolutely nothing. It does keep bigots out of influential positions where they can implement their prejudices, it does demonstrate that decent people won’t tolerate their bigotry. Fighting racism isn’t about changing these shitbags, it’s about pushing them back under the rock from whence they crawled. What possible good comes from tolerating them – maybe hope that one day they see the light? Who cares, just let’s stop giving these people a platform. Racist should = loser, not Vogue editor or President of the US. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/792 "2021-03-20T16:03:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > HA! I KNEW they got it from _AOAAG_ (which I always referred to as “that movie about those two guys”)! Heh. I never saw _Officer and a Gentleman_. I knew the phrase from Bloom County. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/793 "2021-03-20T16:41:51Z")
I get your point. I agree that 17 year olds frequently do stupid things. I agree that something you did at 17 shouldn’t destroy your life. But Condé Nast is a free market business. Do you know who doesn’t agree that 17 year olds do stupid things that should never be held against them? Highly progressive 17 year olds that identify strongly as anti-racist. In other words, the core commercial market for Teen Vogue magazine. I’m not saying you don’t have a point, that Teen Vogue towel was folded really poorly. But frankly, I’ve think you’ve fallen into the trap of believing that the other side is somehow acting in good faith and that if “the left” somehow starts folding the towels better, the harassment will stop. I just don’t think the issue deserves the oxygen that you’re giving it, especially in light of the fact that destroying the lives of underprivileged people that made stupid mistakes in their teens is a core conservative principle that drives conservative public policy, enacted under the color of “personal responsibility. I think these are the issues that should be a at the core of any argument about forgiveness for youthful mistakes, just like I feel that the mass concerted Republican effort to destroy politicians and even civilian employees that don’t fall in line behind Donald Trump should be at the core of any discussion about “cancel culture”. It may be unfair that a woman that made racist comments at age 17 now finds those comments have disqualified her from editing a magazine that is exclusively targeted to woke 17 year olds. But life’s not fair, and in terms of injustice this one isn’t even worthy of the world’s smallest violin. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/794 "2021-03-20T17:50:47Z")
Reading this thread, I’m very glad that a permanent record (permanant no matter how hard I tried to delete it) wasn’t kept of everything I thought, said and did in the mid-70s, when I was Ms. McCammond’s age. I wouldn’t just be unemployed, I’d be fairly recently out of prison. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/795 "2021-03-20T17:56:14Z")
Get a grip. I explicitly said that teens should be punished at the time for misdeeds. If, after ten years the person has shown that they’ve matured then I have no problem moving on. Your comments make me think of people who want to try juveniles as adults to make them pay. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/796 "2021-03-20T17:59:48Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I explicitly said that teens should be punished at the time for misdeeds Well, this one _wasn’t._ So here we are… You also OK with teen murderers and rapists having a “keep it quiet for 8-years” get out of jail free card? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/797 "2021-03-20T18:02:10Z")
Let me add my apologies if I implied you were going senile; it wasn’t my intent. We have a tendency to glorify the past, especially our childhood. From a neutral view that could be happening here. It’s just as possible that I’m full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/798 "2021-03-20T18:03:54Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > It’s just as possible that I’m full of shit. This one. I don’t glorify my past. It is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/799 "2021-03-20T18:05:49Z")
Hmm, wonder what asahi thinks of this example of ‘’‘cancel culture’‘’… > **[Trump aides seeking jobs 'blocked everywhere'](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-aides-seeking-jobs-blocked-everywhere)** > > You can count on two hands the number of top aides to former President Donald Trump who have landed new jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/800 "2021-03-20T18:06:37Z")
What should her punishment have been? Kicked out of school? Automatically fired from whatever job she had? Whatever, probably not as much as you’re calling for today. Your desire for retribution is concerning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=41)