# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/941 "2024-02-07T18:01:04Z")
Its really hard to win that - because there isn’t a pattern when its ONE woman who was canned and no men who were canned. Sex discrimination lawsuits are won on patterns. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/942 "2024-02-07T18:04:41Z")
Oh, I agree, I don’t think she has a case at all. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/943 "2024-02-07T18:09:28Z")
Trump & his followers have a habit of identifying with the villain - in 2019 the Trump campaign [cast him as Thanos](https://deadline.com/2019/12/president-trump-channels-his-inner-thanos-in-avengers-themed-campaign-image-1202806040/) in a campaign video. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/944 "2024-02-07T19:24:22Z")
That first page with the Star Wars references look like they were written by an AI. Complete with hallucinations. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/945 "2024-02-07T22:59:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > That first page with the Star Wars references look like they were written by an AI. Shit you might be right. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/946 "2024-02-08T01:52:13Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Trump & his followers have a habit of identifying with the villain - in 2019 the Trump campaign [cast him as Thanos](https://deadline.com/2019/12/president-trump-channels-his-inner-thanos-in-avengers-themed-campaign-image-1202806040/) in a campaign video. For Warhammer 40k, Trump is often depicted as the Emperor of Mankind. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulysses/32/16083_2.png) [@Ulysses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulysses)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/947 "2024-02-08T02:13:23Z")
California has a statute that prohibits employers from coercing or influencing the political activities of their employees, so the suit probably survives a motion for Rule 11 sanctions (for frivolous filings) and **maybe** a motion to dismiss. Disney will of course (correctly) argue that the termination was to mitigate potential business losses and not politically motivated, but that may require at least summary judgment. > No employer shall coerce or influence or attempt to coerce or influence his employees through or by means of threat of discharge or loss of employment to adopt or follow or refrain from adopting or following any particular course or line of political action or political activity. > **[2011 California Code :: Labor Code :: DIVISION 2. EMPLOYMENT REGULATION AND...](https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2011/lab/division-2/1101-1106/1102)** ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/948 "2024-02-08T02:21:40Z")
> [@Ulysses](#): > > Disney will of course (correctly) argue that the termination was to mitigate potential business losses and not politically motivated, but that may require at least summary judgment. Just reading the blurb you cited, what difference does it make if they’re discharing Carano for potential business losses? They told her to refrain from following a particular course of political action or activity and terminated her when she refused. If a company could just argue they did so to prevent loss of revenue then it’d be a toothless law indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/949 "2024-02-08T02:21:56Z")
Amusingly that’s Thanos just before he dissolves into dust as a failure ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/950 "2024-02-08T02:27:05Z")
> [@Ulysses](#): > > California has a statute that prohibits employers from coercing or influencing the political activities of their employees, Are actors considered employees? Serious question. I’ve always thought of them more as independent contractors. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/951 "2024-02-08T02:31:58Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Are actors considered employees? Serious question. I’ve always thought of them more as independent contractors. Good point. According to a quick Google check, most actors list themselves as self-employed. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/952 "2024-02-08T02:35:00Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > If a company could just argue they did so to prevent loss of revenue then it’d be a toothless law indeed. It often is. But for the really large companies, it really is usually about the profits. Remember that Disney is also the company that basically fired James Gunn when a couple of conservative jackasses basically ran a successful social media campaign to convince Bob Iger to ‘cancel’ Gunn because Iger was himself conservative and was, of course, paying attention to the wrong social media. Not that Gunn was some kind of total innocent, but he ended up making a very successful superhero movie for DC proving the generally public wasn’t really buying the smear campaign or at least not enough to lose money. So Iger eventually made a show of ‘accepting’ Gunn’s apology (and saying at the time the firing was some kind of ‘unanimous’ decision of several other executives) so he could come back to make more Marvel movies. Bottom line: at Disney, if you bring in the big bucks, it doesn’t really matter. If it looks like you’re a liability, you’re shown the door. That said, yeah, it’s really easy to claim it’s not about political stance at smaller places. But that’s hardly new. There’s plenty of places where race, gender, age, and other considerations are used but proving it is the hard part. Especially proving it while also supporting yourself. Not everybody has the time or resources to fight back. ---
**Author:** ![Ulysses](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulysses/32/16083_2.png) [@Ulysses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulysses)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/953 "2024-02-08T02:37:28Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Just reading the blurb you cited, what difference does it make if they’re discharing Carano for potential business losses? They told her to refrain from following a particular course of political action or activity and terminated her when she refused. If a company could just argue they did so to prevent loss of revenue then it’d be a toothless law indeed. The litigation will likely involve argument regarding the intent and legislative history of that section of the California code. It is a legal maxim that statutory interpretations should avoid absurd results. As such, I find it highly unlikely that the California legislature intended to create a remedy in which an employee could assert that statements broadly offensive enough to cause their employer harm were “political” beliefs as a defense to termination. If so, a neo Nazi could advocate genocide and claim protection from adverse employment action. Best guess: The court will likely find that the code protects expressly political activity by employees on their own time (e.g., canvassing, partisan and issue advocacy) but will find that employers may take action against employees who engage in offensive activity that is at best indirectly political. Otherwise, the code section is essentially a commercial suicide pact. ETA: > [@Zakalwe](#): > > Are actors considered employees? Serious question. I’ve always thought of them more as independent contractors. Also a good question that may be an issue of fact in the litigation. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/954 "2024-02-08T02:54:30Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > For Warhammer 40k, Trump is often depicted as the Emperor of Mankind. Now the whole golden toilet thing makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/955 "2024-02-08T03:07:44Z")
I’ve linked this before, but it’s worth linking again. Warning (yes, it’s the Pit, but…) of NSFW gratuitous cartoon violence and language. [The God Emperor Purges the Alt-Right](https://youtu.be/RBpijRDDOxQ) ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/956 "2024-02-08T03:24:09Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > > [@muldoonthief](#): > > > > Trump & his followers have a habit of identifying with the villain - in 2019 the Trump campaign [cast him as Thanos](https://deadline.com/2019/12/president-trump-channels-his-inner-thanos-in-avengers-themed-campaign-image-1202806040/) in a campaign video. > > For Warhammer 40k, Trump is often depicted as the Emperor of Mankind. And as a dedicated Chaos player, I find that fitting. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/957 "2024-02-08T03:31:27Z")
Eh, at least the God-Emperor was _nearly_ as smart as he thought he was. Nearly. Or, rather, it’s too bad he wasn’t as wise as he was smart and ruthless. If reborn he’d aggressively purge all those idiots for what they’ve done in his name. Or, well, he was an incredible pragmatist, so he’d make _some_ examples and work with what he had, such as he did with Mars. He’s done it before after all. But you’re right the unspeakably fascist rigidity (as long as their the ones who get to decide who’s the heretic and who’s righteous) is part and parcel of both the 40K imperium and the modern MAGA/RWNJ/“Christian” Nationalists, while the inherent duality and mutability of chaos would fill them with terror. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/958 "2024-02-08T05:11:08Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > For Warhammer 40k, Trump is often depicted as the Emperor of Mankind. I feel that gives him too much gravitas. Nurgle is sitting right there… [![](https://i.redd.it/ybx9dp7xomv41.png) ](https://i.redd.it/ybx9dp7xomv41.png) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/959 "2024-02-08T05:28:36Z")
Hey, the comments on the video I linked had the following comment: > Even Heretics would never compare The Corpse-Emperor to essentially 3 nurglings in a suit ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/960 "2024-02-08T06:26:13Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > For Warhammer 40k, Trump is often depicted as the Emperor of Mankind. So a corpse that’s just barely being kept alive by machines and is worshipped as a god despite being nothing of the sort? Sounds about right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=49)