# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/101 "2021-02-11T17:42:09Z")
Spoiler- Alex, a major character, written out due to sexual harassment allegations. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/102 "2021-02-11T17:42:17Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > And yes I would certainly want to be explicitly told that I’m not allowed to post the sort of things I was posting in my personal life before I was fired. She was probably aware of the controversy, but perhaps in her little Mandalorian production bubble didn’t realize that higher-ups at Disney would actually fire her over her personal posts. It’s not like she posted “Hey kids, Cara Dune wants you to know that Liberals are just like Nazis, may the force be with you!” Just to remove this from the political realm. How did you feel about Charlie Sheen being removed from 2-1/2 Men? His debauchery didn’t offend me but it reflected negatively on his employer so he was removed and I had no problem with that. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/103 "2021-02-11T17:45:50Z")
IIRC Sheen was a wife beater. I think it’s understood that wife beaters are considered lowlifes in society. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/104 "2021-02-11T17:46:55Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We need to have some built in level of tolerance for occasionally controversial views. I am increasingly seeing none, Increasingly seeing “none”? She’s been doing this for 6 months after her employer asked her to knock it off. How long is an employer supposed to put up with someone so unrepentantly selfish, unsubordinate, and disrepectful? (Or dumb, take your pick). At some point we’ve got to stop putting any effort into asking “are really that dumb or just acting dumb?” Too many people are consciously using the act for attention-grabbing stunts. We need to take the attitude that maybe a firing or two will improve their intellect, and if not, no great loss. I strongly think she’s courting controversy because it’s good for her brand. The Joe Rogan type of pseudo-libertarian idiots who really just chafe at the idea that they ever have to do anything they don’t want to. Maybe she’s correctly calculated that she’ll get more mileage out of being a shitty podcaster/influencer than being a bad actor. > [@](#): > > and I haven’t changed my worldview one iota: I am still hyper-progressive and have strong attitudes toward modern “conservatism.” I have little idea what your inner life is, but you’re ducking straight into the both-sides sewer of enlightened centrism here, and doubling down by continuing to pretend this is a bolt from the blue rather than something she’s (apparently) been trying to earn since last year. Occam’s razor says she simply came to value Instagram likes more than her Mandalorian role, and this is just her attention-grabbing way of quitting. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/105 "2021-02-11T17:49:58Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > IIRC Sheen was a wife beater. I think it’s understood that wife beaters are considered lowlifes in society. Personally, I consider people who lie about election fraud to subvert democracy and foment insurrection to also be “lowlifes in society”. But hey, that’s just me. Maybe I’m wrong and we should continue to give these “occasionally controversial views” the patina of legitimacy because what possible harm could that result in. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/106 "2021-02-11T17:50:19Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t think people should be fired for simply being ignorant. She’s not ignorant. Her co-worker, who has a trans sister, tried to educate her on that front. But did she learn? Like fuck she did. > [@asahi](#): > > I don’t believe in shunning people who aren’t going out of their way to be distasteful. She was posting transphobic and hateful shit on social media. Did Twitter come hold her down and force her to type? No. She went _out of her way_ alright. This isn’t because you have a nerd-boner for her Amazonian charms, is it? She was never going to snu-snu you, dude, get over it. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Was Carano actually _fired_ ? Or did she just not have her contract renewed for the next season of _Mandalorian_ ? Was she even slated to be in it? She just didn’t get renewed, but that includes being the lead of the mooted _Rangers of the Republic_ spinoff series. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/107 "2021-02-11T17:52:43Z")
I think you’re right about the [**domestic violence**](https://www.aspentimes.com/news/charlie-sheen-jailed-in-aspen-after-alleged-domestic-dispute/), but I don’t think that’s what got him fired (problematic issue unto itself): > **[Charlie Sheen fired from "Two and A Half Men"](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-charliesheen/charlie-sheen-fired-from-two-and-a-half-men-idUSTRE7266B120110308)** > > Actor Charlie Sheen was fired on Monday from his top-rated comedy "Two and A Half Men" because of his "dangerously self-destructive conduct," difficulty at work and inflammatory comments to producers, TV executives said. > **[Two and a Half Men](https://ew.com/creative-work/two-and-a-half-men/)** > > Two and a Half Men ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/108 "2021-02-11T17:53:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > She just didn’t get renewed, but that includes being the lead of the mooted _Rangers of the Republic_ spinoff series. Was she ever announced as the lead of that show? I don’t remember that. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/109 "2021-02-11T17:54:29Z")
Not announced, but she would have been the natural choice, given Season 2 of _The Mandalorian_ ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/110 "2021-02-11T18:00:21Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’ll modify my opinion to acknowledge that she apparently had a history that I wasn’t aware of. Despite it being brought up _in the fucking link **you** posted in the OP_? Either this is bullshit backpedaling, or you’re a dumbass who doesn’t read their own cites. Pick one. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/111 "2021-02-11T18:02:16Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > perhaps in her little Mandalorian production bubble didn’t realize that higher-ups at Disney would actually fire her over her personal posts. Her colleagues outright told her this would happen. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/112 "2021-02-11T18:04:30Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Was she even given a chance? My understanding is that she was. She has made a number of past tweets in support of right wing nut causes like anti-masking, transphobia, and voter fraud conspiracy theories. And I have read reports that the studio warned her to stop making public statements like this. She took a break for a few weeks and then got back in the game with her Nazis tweet. So the studio fired her. It look to me like she was seeking martyrdom. The conservative kind where you get booked on Fox instead of dying. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/113 "2021-02-11T18:09:06Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Also in today’s cancel culture news: a Guardian journalist who previously denied the existence of cancel culture was fired for a tweet criticising Israel. Ironic. Well, he did say " Publishers are not obliged to give bigots […] a platform" Little did he know, the bigot was he. I guess the Guardian just _agreed_ with him that “we don’t publish arguments we find morally debased and poorly reasoned, by people whose views we do not wish to promote as sensible and worth listening to”. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/114 "2021-02-11T18:13:17Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Also in today’s cancel culture news: a Guardian journalist who previously denied the existence of cancel culture was fired for a tweet criticising Israel. Not exactly. The journalist in question, Nathan Robinson, has had pieces published by the Guardian in recent years but was not on the Guardian’s staff or under contract to them (per the Guardian), so he couldn’t have been “fired”. It does appear that they’ve stopped featuring his stuff, all because of a “joke” he tweeted. "In December, Robinson tweeted a complaint that the COVID-19 relief package was looped in with $500 million worth of military aid to Israel. “Did you know that the US Congress is not actually permitted to authorize any new spending unless a portion of it is directed toward buying weapons for Israel?” lamented Robinson. “It’s the law.” Robinson followed up that tweet by saying, well, maybe Congress isn’t actually legally obliged to put money for Israel into spending bills, but functionally it’s the same thing. > **[Journalist Says He Was Fired by Guardian over Tweet Criticizing U.S. Military...](https://www.democracynow.org/2021/2/11/headlines/journalist_says_he_was_fired_by_guardian_over_tweet_criticizing_us_military_support_to_israel)** > > In media news, a columnist with The Guardian newspaper says he was fired after writing a sarcastic tweet criticizing U.S. military aid to Israel. Nathan Robinson, who edits the journal Current Affairs, had written for The Guardian since 2017. But his... Apparently the Guardian (which has never been hesitant about criticizing Israel) felt that spreading that kind of misinformation in today’s political climate was a “joke” too far. As for Carano, she made a statement deeply offensive to Holocaust victims and Jews in general, preceded by a number of stupid comments, so it’s not entirely shocking that her screen career has had a setback as a result. Maybe she can go back to competing in MMA, where fans are probably more prone to lap up that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/115 "2021-02-11T18:20:03Z")
Carano should have talked to Roseanne Barr. She would have been told that talking like a white male conservative doesn’t give you the immunity of being a white male conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/116 "2021-02-11T18:22:39Z")
It’s sad that people are so historically ignorant that all they can think of to compare to something they don’t like is the holocaust. If she’d gone with McCarthyism she wouldn’t have been fired. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/117 "2021-02-11T18:23:20Z")
I’ve been anxiously awaiting Carano’s “I was [**Ambien Tweeting**](https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xe5xk/a-short-history-of-people-tweeting-on-ambien-and-not-being-racist)” defense. A little further back in time, you just checked into a posh inpatient rehab facility in Malibu, and … walla ! Redemption ! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/118 "2021-02-11T18:30:56Z")
If an employee of mine takes a dump in the building lobby or out on the public sidewalk doesn’t matter to me, they’ll be fired. This isn’t free speech, it’s a threat. It doesn’t matter if she’s too stupid to know she’s repeating white supremacist nonsense but that’s what it is. You do know she’s too stupid to have thought of that herself. In for a penny, in for a pound, when you espouse that kind of crap you have to take responsibility for it’s source and everything related to it, and again, stupid is no excuse. Believe people when they tell you what they are, she’s telling you she’s running with a pack of rabid dogs ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/119 "2021-02-11T18:44:38Z")
The way I see it, If I was the Disney executive responsible for the decision, I would not have fired her, (which means that I think they are wrong in firing her). However they are allowed to do it by law, so it’s not illegal. And if someone were to propose a law to stop businesses from firing people for their political views, Gina Carano and those who share her political views would be the first to cry “Communism!”. So, if they like the untrammeled free market and capitalism so much… well, enjoy it pal. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/120 "2021-02-11T18:51:42Z")
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