# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous

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**Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/121 "2021-02-11T19:00:31Z")

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So people don’t have to worry about the consequences of their actions? Is that what you’re saying? Do you believe that people who sexually harass people shouldn’t be held accountable for what they do?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/122 "2021-02-11T19:01:07Z")

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She also mocked people who put their pronouns in their social media bios. You think that’s acceptable? Not to mention that her co-star has a sister who is trans.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Carano should have talked to Roseanne Barr. She would have been told that talking like a white male conservative doesn’t give you the immunity of being a white male conservative.

Agreed.

> [@Frodo](#):
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> The way I see it, If I was the Disney executive responsible for the decision, I would not have fired her, (which means that I think they are wrong in firing her).  
> However they are allowed to do it by law, so it’s not illegal.  
> And if someone were to propose a law to stop businesses from firing people for their political views, Gina Carano and those who share her political views would be the first to cry “Communism!”.  
> So, if they like the untrammeled free market and capitalism so much… well, enjoy it pal.

It’s not the law that needs changing, we need people to stop being so damn intolerant and punitive and demanding that anyone they disagree with or who makes a mistake be fired. Either that or these businesses need to realise the people on social media are just a noisy minority and stop pandering to them.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/124 "2021-02-11T19:06:44Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> we need people to stop being so damn intolerant

I’m not required to tolerate dangerous intolerant nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/125 "2021-02-11T19:06:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> She also mocked people who put their pronouns in their social media bios. You think that’s acceptable? Not to mention that her co-star has a sister who is trans.

In all fairness, she publicly stated that her coworker explained to her why mocking trans people was not okay, and she retracted her statements.

> Pascal, [whose sister recently came out as a trans woman](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2021/02/09/pedro-pascal-supports-sister-after-she-comes-out-trans/4461384001/), assisted Carano last fall after she mocked people putting gender pronouns in their social bios by adding “boop/bop/beep” to her Twitter profile.

> Carano said her co-star helped her understand why they were important. “I didn’t know before but I do now,” [she wrote on Twitter](https://twitter.com/SW_takes/status/1305057023185154050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1305057023185154050%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fuproxx.com%2Fmovies%2Fpedro-pascal-sister-trans-lux-gina-carano-pronouns%2F) at the time, adding that she stood against bullying, “especially the most vulnerable.”

Man, I couldn’t give a fuck about this woman. As for harming the brand, I didn’t quit watching because of her, but it just heaped one more reason onto the pile for me to regard the series with complete apathy.

It seems that her ignorance comes from genuine stupidity, not malevolence, but it’s no tragedy that Disney canned her ass.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/126 "2021-02-11T19:07:10Z")

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Your intolerance of my intolerance is intolerant!

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/127 "2021-02-11T19:07:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The journalist in question, Nathan Robinson, has had pieces published by the Guardian in recent years but was not on the Guardian’s staff or under contract to them (per the Guardian), so he couldn’t have been “fired”. It does appear that they’ve stopped featuring his stuff, all because of a “joke” he tweeted.

Doesn’t matter how progressive you are, you can still end up cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/128 "2021-02-11T19:07:37Z")

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I think they just made a business decision, “will keeping this woman employed affect our bottom line negatively?” and they decided that the answer was “yes”, so they fired her.  
If you don’t change the law, they will continue doing that kind of decisions, because that’s the nature of corporations.  
(even if you do they’ll try to keep doing it, just lie about their reasons).

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/129 "2021-02-11T19:10:33Z")

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I know! The Guardian should be required to publish his articles.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/130 "2021-02-11T19:12:50Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> This isn’t cancel culture “getting ridiculous”.

No. It’s not. You’re right.

It is, however, cancel culture shooting fish in a barrel.

As we post, Jeff Bezos and Amazon are exerting all their considerable resources to keep their workforce from organizing so that they have a shot at decent working conditions and pay. And yet people are getting more exercised over what some actress I never heard of tweeted.

> **[Amazon Hired Koch-Backed Anti-Union Consultant to Fight Alabama Warehouse...](https://theintercept.com/2021/02/10/amazon-alabama-union-busting-koch/)**
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> The head of the Center for Independent Employees is paid $3,200 per day to thwart what could become the first unionized Amazon facility in the U.S.

This is ridiculous. A trivial person tweeted something stupid. Jesus Christ, who cares? Ignore her. There are more important things happening.

Cancel Jeff Bezos. Boycott Amazon. Don’t get distracted by some twitter moron.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/131 "2021-02-11T19:13:48Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Man, I couldn’t give a fuck about this woman. As for harming the brand, I didn’t quit watching because of her, but it just heaped one more reason onto the pile for me to regard the series with complete apathy.

My partner disagrees, he said her character was fun and had good fight scenes, and it was nice that she actually looked like she could fight rather than being another waif doing kung foo.

Who cares if an actress is woke, or understands the holocaust. The important thing is whether she can act.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/132 "2021-02-11T19:15:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> She pretty clearly did not intend to demean Jews here; she inappropriately used them as an example.

I think she pretty clearly did.  
You’re providing excuses for someone who doesn’t want to be excused - that’s not necessary. She had and has had ample opportunity to retract her statements, to make a different statement, to issue an apology - and she’s not done so. There was plenty of time between her tweet and Disney’s remarks for her to say anything. She didn’t. At this point, it’s logical to conclude that she is proud of her words and behavior and that she wanted and meant to make the statement. And that given the choice of anti-Semitism or working for Disney, she’s choosing anti-Semitism.

Why are you trying to take away her options?

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/133 "2021-02-11T19:17:11Z")

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> It’s not the law that needs changing, we need people to stop being so damn intolerant and punitive and demanding that anyone they disagree with or who makes a mistake be fired. Either that or these businesses need to realise the people on social media are just a noisy minority and stop pandering to them.

Why do you assume that Disney made this decision because of people on social media? Why can’t they make this decision because they feel it is what is best for the business? Also, why are people on social media not allowed to express their feelings? It sounds more like you just want everyone to have to think exactly like you do.

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Who cares if an actress sends out anti-democratic stop-the-steal tweets and anti-mask tweets that endanger peoples lives? As long as I’m entertained by her screen presence, right?

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I think they just made a business decision, “will keeping this woman employed affect our bottom line negatively?” and they decided that the answer was “yes”, so they fired her.

This, dammit. To them this was more trouble than it was worth. And especially when it is a matter of not reissuing a contract (as opposed to actually terminating), that makes the answer very, very easy.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/136 "2021-02-11T19:18:32Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Doesn’t matter how progressive you are, you can still end up cancelled.

Somebody needs to explain that to serial whiner Gina Carano, who is apparently nursing the butthurt illusion that “canceling” only affects conservatives.

> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Who cares if an actress is woke, or understands the holocaust.

Well, nobody would be caring at all in this case, if the actress in question hadn’t deliberately used her entertainment celebrity status as a platform to air her political views to the public at large.

I maintain that she has every right to do that, but neither she nor you nor anybody else has a right to demand that nobody else should care about it.

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I think Disney should be required to hire all people who send tweets comparing the treatment of conservatives to the Holocaust. It’s the only sensible thing to do.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/138 "2021-02-11T19:21:45Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Cancel Jeff Bezos. Boycott Amazon. Don’t get distracted by some twitter moron.

Damn. That’s a tall order during lockdown. You’re right though, a lot of this nonsense just serves to distract us from the real problems.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/139 "2021-02-11T19:24:01Z")

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**Asahi** , shut the fuck up.

She did this _deliberately_. She wanted to cause a stir. In a few weeks she will have pretty cushy deal as a commentator on NewsMaxx or Fox, where she will complain ad nauseum how horribly her Republican counterparts (who tried a coup and murdered people) were treated by those terribly terribly mean ol’ Democrats who are just being as mean as they can be!

She was fired by her employers because NOT firing her would have cost them. If you do something that brings shame to your employer, expect to be canned.

You don’t like, _you_ can hire her.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/140 "2021-02-11T19:26:01Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> My partner disagrees, he said her character was fun and had good fight scenes, and it was nice that she actually looked like she could fight rather than being another waif doing kung foo.

I watched the first season and the first two episodes of season two. Kept waiting for it to go somewhere. Anywhere. Did they do anything interesting with her character? Not that I could see. Certainly wasn’t blown away by her acting. The Mandalorian is a giant pile of Meh.

I do actually care, a little, what opinions she projects to the public. As I said, it’s just one more thing keeping me from returning to the show. And Disney knows this. Disney knows some people care. Disney is protecting their bottom line.

It amazes me how conservatives, the champions of corporate liberty, those fighting so incredibly hard for the right of businesses to do whatever they want with their workers, up to and including blatant exploitation - these conservatives just fall the fuck apart whenever a business exercises its freedom to fire someone _they agree with._

I once had a conservative woman proclaim in all seriousness that she couldn’t legally be fired for something she stated publicly. Yeah, honey. That’s the world you built.

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