# Gina Carano is ignorant AF, but cancel culture is really getting ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694 "2021-02-11T14:13:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/161 "2021-02-11T19:56:03Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Who cares if an actress is woke, or understands the holocaust. The important thing is whether she can act. Well, that excludes Carano… ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/162 "2021-02-11T19:58:10Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > “Now that the bad thing is happening to people we dislike, we’ve changed our minds and no longer oppose it.” Nonsense. Liberals in general were never arguing that people shouldn’t have the right to influence a company’s policy decisions by boycotting and complaining about the company. I remember several famous large-scale liberal boycotts against Coors, Exxon, the Salvation Army, and so forth, for example. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/163 "2021-02-11T20:02:32Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Shunning is great if you want create an increasingly divided society filled with people who will eagerly vote for the next populist politician. Got news for you, pet - it’s a little too late to “create” something that already exists. But nice _argumentum ad consequentiam_, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/164 "2021-02-11T20:04:55Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Personally, I prefer education. Let me know when these racist shit heels start preferring education. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/165 "2021-02-11T20:05:17Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@DemonTree](#): > > > > “Now that the bad thing is happening to people we dislike, we’ve changed our minds and no longer oppose it.” > > Nonsense. Liberals in general were never arguing that people shouldn’t have the right to influence a company’s policy decisions by boycotting and complaining about the company. I remember several famous large-scale liberal boycotts against Coors, Exxon, the Salvation Army, and so forth, for example. It’s almost like right-wing nutjobs have totally forgotten the left-wing-led disinvestment campaign against Apartheid ( that their sainted Reagan and Thatcher opposed). Boycotts have _always_ been a valid LW tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/166 "2021-02-11T20:11:44Z")
It’s long been a Conservative meme that Hollywood types should stick to acting or singing or whatever and STFU about politics. Unless they are Republican actors, of course. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/167 "2021-02-11T20:12:43Z")
A multi-billion dollar corporation fired someone for saying things that they perceive to be bad for their bottom line. I’m shocked. SHOCKED! I tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/168 "2021-02-11T20:16:28Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Do you think they were right to fire her? I think they have a right to fire her. That’s a little different than saying they were right to fire her. I’m of two minds about the ethics of the situation. On the one hand, spreading delusions about the election is highly dangerous. How do we deal with the individual vs collective hysteria is a valid question. I want to be clear, I think Gina Carano’s main problem is that she is very, very, stupid. How should we penalize individuals for stupidity, especially when stupid individuals have been weaponized by the GOP? Does booting Carano ultimately help reinforce paranoid delusions or does it send a useful message that this sort of thing is not okay? I don’t know. I’m quite certain that Disney doesn’t know. Not an easy answer. What’s a lot more clear cut is that a business didn’t want any bad publicity for their brand, so they fired a stupid person after giving her many, many chances. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/169 "2021-02-11T20:19:51Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@DemonTree](#): > > > > Who cares if an actress is woke, or understands the holocaust. The important thing is whether she can act. > > Well, that excludes Carano… Dammit, I really liked _Haywire_! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/170 "2021-02-11T20:21:17Z")
People who portray right-wingers as victims akin to Holocaust victims are not just “speaking out of ignorance” or “saying something stupid.” Same with people who spread Q-Anon-related conspiracy theories and lies about election fraud. They are helping spread a big lie, one that is being used to justify violence against their political opponents and abrogate democracy. They are not just a political threat; they are a real threat to our lives and to our liberty. They should be shunned. They should be fired. They should be de-platformed. People who mock mask mandates or other simple responses to pandemic conditions are helping murder their neighbors and people around the world. They should be shunned. They should be fired. They should be de-platformed. Right-wing extremism has never been taken seriously in this country and we have suffered mightily for it. Being a Trump supporter post-January 6 is no longer a political opinion. It is a threat to our country and to our personal safety. Anyone spouting such nonsense deserves no sympathy when they have to face consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/171 "2021-02-11T20:22:22Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Who cares if an actress is woke, or understands the holocaust. The important thing is whether she can act. There are plenty of aspiring actors who can act and haven’t been given the chance. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/172 "2021-02-11T20:23:53Z")
So we should shun, fire, and de-platform 45% of the country? Trust me, I feel the sentiment. There are posts of mine that advocate throwing conservatives into education camps, and I can’t guarantee I won’t make such posts again in a fit of rage. But realistically…? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/173 "2021-02-11T20:25:29Z")
It was OK, but Carano’s dialogue bits in it were hardly the highlight. But I’m more going by her Mandalorian turn. Great at action, not so much at prescence. Just reading her lines, it looked like. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/174 "2021-02-11T20:31:17Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > No thanks, because I know it’s a stupid remark, but I still don’t think someone should be automatically fired for their own ignorance. I strongly suspect her intemperate comments are not the ONLY reason she was “let go”. Part of the reason, yes, but unlikely to be the only factor. There’s been a _#FireGinaCarano_ hashtag going almost since the first time she appeared on the _Mandalorian_, certainly throughout 2020. This was not the first objectionable comment she made on social media, it was not a one-time thing, a mistake, or ignorance. She does, of course, have the right of free speech but she does not have the right to dictate how others view her opinions, especially when she does it over and over. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/175 "2021-02-11T20:31:28Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > So we should shun, fire, and de-platform 45% of the country? Once people actually start doing it to the most vocal, it will soon cease to be 45%. Probably just the die-hard quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/176 "2021-02-11T20:34:13Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It was OK, but Carano’s dialogue bits in it were hardly the highlight. But I’m more going by her Mandalorian turn. Great at action, not so much at prescence. Just reading her lines, it looked like. Don’t have Disney+, so never saw it. But Soderbergh is so damn good he got a credible lead performance out of an erstwhile MMA fighter. /hijack ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/177 "2021-02-11T20:34:41Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > So we should shun, fire, and de-platform 45% of the country? We should certainly diminish their influence so that 45% declines to a smaller minority instead of growing to a majority who feel justified in undermining democracy to suit their ends. Particularly if they are promoting dangerous falsehoods and advocating harm of others. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/178 "2021-02-11T20:36:25Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > She pretty clearly did not intend to demean Jews here; she inappropriately used them as an example. Would she be fired if she’s compared conservatives to Armenians? As a member of a Jewish family that lost members to the WWII slaughter I was offended. This was not a new thing, I’ve been offended by such comparisons in the past. I understand that ignorance exists and I’m willing to consider that as a source the first time someone says something that mind-boggling stupid, but Carano has a history of saying crap like that. As a human being, I’d also be offended at her comparing the treatment of conservatives in the US at present to the Armenian genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/179 "2021-02-11T20:39:02Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > As a member of a Jewish family that lost members to the WWII slaughter I was offended 100% agreed. Not to mention, diminishing how bad the holocaust was in this way is precisely how you get morons like the marching Nazis at Charlottesville thinking it is safe to crawl out of the shadows. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694/180 "2021-02-11T20:39:33Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Firing someone is a form of human shunning. Good. People like her aren’t shunned enough. Republicans have been coddled far too long for their offensive views. > [@asahi](#): > > She apparently thinks wearing masks isn’t a big deal and that the election was rigged – wrong on both accounts, but these are fairly mainstream conservative opinions. And should be shunned. Believing the election was rigged is an especially dangerous opinion, one that could lead to a violent insurrection. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gina-carano-is-ignorant-af-but-cancel-culture-is-really-getting-ridiculous/932694.md?page=10)