# Gingrich, We Hardly Knew Ye. .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 9, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898 "2011-06-09T19:14:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/61 "2011-11-11T15:15:56Z")

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> [@Lantern](#):
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> I am increasingly warming to the idea of a Gingrich resurgence.

I can’t see how he will be able to overcome his marital record. Too many voters, including evangelical Republicans, mainstream Republicans and even mainstream Democrats, are going to have a problem supporting a person who has been repeatedly unfaithful to his wives.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/62 "2011-11-11T15:24:48Z")

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> [@Lantern](#):
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> The fundamental fact of this primary is that Romney’s support seems to tops out at 25% which means that 75% of the primary electorate is searching for someone else.

Romney’s next slogan: “You’re stuck with me. Get used to it.” I know Gingrich is polling a little better, but I don’t see him getting all of Cain’s supporters (they don’t like Washington insiders and he’s _Newt Gingrich_) or posing a serious threat when he passed his expiration date 15 years ago.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Huntsman is the dark horse. He is Romney without the flip-flops.

He’s more of an invisible horse. The moderate pro-evolution, pro-global warming, ex-Obama ambassador is having trouble gaining traction in the Republican primaries for some reason. He’s been campaigning a long time and I think he’s still polling around one percent. If Obama picked Huntsman as an ambassador to make sure he couldn’t compete in the 2012 primaries, it worked perfectly. Although Huntsman might not have had a shot anyway.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/63 "2011-11-11T16:33:55Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Interesting. It’s just an argument that it’s Newt’s turn to be the front runner. Everybody else has already had their chance at it.

Santorum hasn’t!

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/64 "2011-11-11T16:55:40Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I can’t see how he will be able to overcome his marital record. Too many voters, including evangelical Republicans, mainstream Republicans and even mainstream Democrats, are going to have a problem supporting a person who has been repeatedly unfaithful to his wives.

Apparently, that isn’t a problem. I mean, Horndog Bill was unfaithful to his wife in a massive manner and people still think he’s the cat’s ass.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/65 "2011-11-11T17:13:17Z")

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How many of those Clinton-loving adultery-excusers are Republican primary voters, though?

We’re talking two sets of people here, with different values.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/66 "2011-11-11T17:16:09Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> How many of those Clinton-loving adultery-excusers are Republican primary voters, though?
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> We’re talking two sets of people here, with different values.

Yes. Can you imagine the Republican who spearheaded the charge against Clinton in '98 voting for a cheat like Gingrich? I forget what that Republican’s name was. I’m sure it’ll come to me.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/67 "2011-11-11T17:23:05Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Santorum hasn’t!

Yes, but Santorum is all about following up in the rear. 😛

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/68 "2011-11-11T17:24:02Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Yes. Can you imagine the Republican who spearheaded the charge against Clinton in '98 voting for a cheat like Gingrich? I forget what that Republican’s name was. I’m sure it’ll come to me.

I should have said “ostensibly different values”.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/69 "2011-11-11T18:14:16Z")

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Mmm, new polling shows Gingrich at 15% tied with Romney among Republicans, Cain is ahead with 18% but within the error margins they are tied with “Undecided/Don’t know” and close to the other great choice of “Someone else”

[http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544\_162-57322894-503544/poll-cain-tops-3-way-race-with-romney-gingrich/](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57322894-503544/poll-cain-tops-3-way-race-with-romney-gingrich/)

I do agree with the posters that mentioned that while Romney is the most likely to get ahead in the end, the volatility of the race so far does point at most of the Republican tea partiers and extreme conservatives disliking Romney and they continue to look for someone else… anybody but him.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/70 "2011-11-12T00:34:34Z")

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Two new polls show a resurgence of Newt:

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> Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is experiencing a mini-surge in November – an apparent sign that voters are sampling the wider field as their affections for some alternatives to Mr. Romney, particularly businessman Herman Cain and Texas Gov. Rick Perry, begin to diminish. The new national CBS survey of Republican primary voters shows Mr. Cain at 18 percent, a modest advantage over Romney and Mr. Gingrich, who are tied at 15 percent.

]([Newt Gingrich: Will his mini-surge in the polls last? - CSMonitor.com](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2011/1111/Newt-Gingrich-Will-his-mini-surge-in-the-polls-last))

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> In this national McClatchy-Marist Poll, Newt Gingrich has joined the top tier of candidates vying for the 2012 Republican nomination for president.
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> Among Republican and Republican leaning independents, here is how the contest stands:
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> ```
> 23% for Mitt Romney
> 19% for Newt Gingrich
> 17% for Herman Cain
> 10% for Ron Paul
> 8% for Rick Perry
> 5% for Michele Bachmann
> 1% for Jon Huntsman
> 1% for Rick Santorum
> 17% are undecided
> 
> ```

]([http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1111-romney-edges-gop-contenders…gingrich-and-cain-battle-for-second/](http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1111-romney-edges-gop-contenders%E2%80%A6gingrich-and-cain-battle-for-second/))

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/71 "2011-11-14T05:41:32Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Interesting. It’s just an argument that it’s Newt’s turn to be the front runner. Everybody else has already had their chance at it.

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.

Obama should throw his hat in the ring suggest that the President might have been born in Kenya.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/72 "2011-11-15T17:16:04Z")

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Newt was pushing for as much damage as he could do against Clinton at the same time he was involved in ugly affairs of his own. He built the escalator between congress and the lobbyists.  
[http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/](http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/) Rude does not think highly of the hypocritical lying ,bought and sold Gingrich.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/73 "2011-11-15T17:34:50Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.
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> Obama should throw his hat in the ring suggest that the President might have been born in Kenya.

And very well said, too.

WTF does your second sentence mean?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/74 "2011-11-15T19:36:11Z")

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Former Speaker Gingrich says he’s a Washington outsider

😕 :dubious: :rolleyes: :smack: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/75 "2011-11-15T19:53:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And where’s the link to the Republican Brain on Drugs?

There’s no perceivable difference.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/76 "2011-11-15T23:44:23Z")

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Rude Pundit story, you have to slide down to the second story about the disgusting Newt. Todays came after i posted.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/77 "2011-11-16T00:58:44Z")

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[Newt shows his aw-shucks humility](http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/15/politics/acosta-gingrich-surges/):

[QUOTE-Newt Gingrich]  
“Because I am much like Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, I’m such an unconventional political figure that you really need to design a unique campaign that fits the way I operate and what I’m trying to do.”  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/78 "2011-11-16T21:48:34Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Apparently, that isn’t a problem. I mean, Horndog Bill was unfaithful to his wife in a massive manner and people still think he’s the cat’s ass.

Slick Willie was unfaithful _because_ he was the cat’s ass.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/79 "2011-11-16T23:00:40Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> And very well said, too.
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> WTF does your second sentence mean?

Obama should throw his hat in teh ring for the Republican primary and insinuate the President was born in kenya and he would be tied with Romeny for the lead.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gingrich-we-hardly-knew-ye/584898/80 "2011-11-16T23:00:54Z")

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Gingrich took $1[.6 million from Freddie Mac](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/newt-gingrich-to-release-freddie-mac-records-denies-lobbying/)as a lobbyist:

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> [Bloomberg News](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/gingrich-said-to-be-paid-at-least-1-6-million-by-freddie-mac.html) reported Tuesday that the former House speaker made between $1.6 million and $1.8 million in consultation fees in a nine-year span. Sources told Bloomberg that in 2006, Gingrich was asked “to build bridges to Capitol Hill Republicans and develop an argument on behalf of the company’s public-private structure that would resonate with conservatives seeking to dismantle it.”

That’s lobbying, no matter what Newt calls it.

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