# Giraffe - Fuck you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229 "2008-11-18T02:17:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Jaglavak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jaglavak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaglavak)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/81 "2008-11-18T09:39:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Sure, there are occasionally lucid debates and stuff, but they need fertilizer to grow; there’s no better fertilizer than freshly-flung monkey poo. Great hopping electrons! I think you just summarized all of human literature. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/82 "2008-11-18T09:41:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*My life is shit too, but I have the decency to wallow in misery alone and quietly, mostly. Sure. Here’s to absent friends who kept quiet right up until the day they shot their brains out: Robert, Dixie, Blue and Jerry. If you are feeling really down on yourself or if you are struggling with mental illness, posting in the Pit is the last thing you want to do. There is no limit on how much of a jerk a Doper can be to those with damaged brain chemistry. Page after page of verbal abuse. But let someone mention that he isn’t photogenic in the wrong forum and BAM! that one is closed. There are lots and lots of threads that are boring to me just because of the subject matter. I seem 'em and move on. They were meant for other people who have different interests from me. I would like to have talked with Lobsang and others about body image. Mine was very distorted growing up. Besides, I’ve always liked his posts. They are more personal and open. He seems to be a very honest fellow which is more than I can say for at least one of you who is playing big shot with him. Giraffe, I think you jumped the gun in closing this particular thread. Have I ever told you that a giraffe lives just two or three blocks from me? My neighborhood is very multi-cultural. ---
**Author:** ![grey\_ideas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@grey\_ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grey_ideas)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/83 "2008-11-18T09:47:10Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > **Lobsang** , are you drinking again? > > I’m not saying that you are, but your recent change in posting behavior tends to make me think that something significant has changed in your world and/or inside your head. > > I’m making no judgements. But I am curious, and a tad worried. Echoing this comment. You do post some odd threads at times **Lobsang** but some are amusing to read and the ones that are more blog worthy don’t bother me, it just seems that recently you’ve gone off on one. In my mind this thread and at least your initial responses aren’t really…you. I’m hoping whatever is bothering you can be resolved, lashing out like you did here does seem uncharacteristic for you. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/84 "2008-11-18T14:48:19Z")
I’m touched that some people are worried about me. I appreciate your sympathy. Firstly - I don’t apologise to **Giraffe** for pitting your decision to close that thread. One thing I did not do in that thread, which I usually do is say “So post if you feel the same way” which would have made it slightly less bloggy and slightly more thready. I didn’t put that in there because I thought it was implied. Your immediate and not very nice closure pissed me off and made me feel small and like a naughty child. I really didn’t like that. Having said that. I **do** apologise for how nasty my pitting was, and how nasty I’ve been in some of my own replies in this thread. I hope you have a thick skin because I genuinely feel bad for how I behaved towards you. Now for a story. I’ll keep it short. A few months ago the company I work for said (in more carefully chosen words than those that follow) “We haven’t bothered to assess any of your individual performances. Instead we’re going to ignore actual pay rises and concentrate on the ‘bonus scheme’ which is based on how much money we make. Oh and by the way - here’s a tiny amount of money. This is your bonus” This hit me hard. I’d been working my ass off, doing some very useful things for the company. Basically I am the person _everyone_ in the enitre company comes to if they have a problem or question. I am the only person with the skills to make all our systems work properly. I felt like a fucking mug. I felt like the boss was happily asking all these things of me knowing that I’d be the loyal little puppy who will gladly accept nothing in return. I felt like I’d been a fucking idiot for doing all this work beyond my job descripition. What this seems to have done long term is to make me stop caring so much about anything whatsoever. I have become more reckless and less careing about stuff, particularly my health and my job. I just want to have a ride. This involves eating recklessly and drinking recklesly. Now, I know that help isn’t going to come from here so don’t think you have any obligation to help me. I’ll appreciate your nice words but you and I know that it is I who needs to help me. I will get better. I will get out of this valley. I actually decided yesterday to re-join a gym and start to improve my body image once more. Not caring so much about the gut (that won’t go away so just live with it dude) but improve the bits I can improve. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/85 "2008-11-18T14:57:31Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Giraffe, first of all, you cool as hell. So, I can’t get on board with a Giraffe pitting. But I’m gonna go ahead and admit something I always secretly felt. Lobsang said something that I have always felt…some of the famous meltdowns on these boards do seem to be…uh, helped along by those that are ‘trying to help’. > > Even after the man says, “ok, sure. I need to chill”…mad people jump in to say, "Dude! Chill!! Take it easy! SIR, SIR, CALM _DOWN_ SIR! > > That shit never helps. > > ETA: I’m not saying this because I have always liked Lobsang. He does have that balance of insecurity and arrogance that I find interesting. I’m saying it because I am a fan of trainwreck threads, and that is one component of them that I do often notice. **Nzinga** Every single meltdown thread I’ve ever seen has been ‘helped along’ by the dopers here. Some of whom are hungry for blood. I have great respect for the good members here. But I am also hugely disappointed in the way other members behave when someone’s guard is down. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/86 "2008-11-18T15:03:51Z")
> [@wring](#): > > Try to grasp the concept that you won’t actally die if you fail to post absofuckingluely every marginal thought that wanders past your single brain cell. My reaction on seeing his “write your own suicide note” thread. I was too lazy to post it, though. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/87 "2008-11-18T15:44:42Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > Then, please, for the love of the jumping Jesus, close any Pit thread having to do with Sarah Palin. Your stock may go up. > > Hell,\* I \*might start to like you. This. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/88 "2008-11-18T15:56:40Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > This. That. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/89 "2008-11-18T15:57:41Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > That. The Other Thing. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/90 "2008-11-18T16:00:49Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The Other Thing. And now for something completely different… Something Completely Different ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/91 "2008-11-18T16:08:07Z")
Giraffe has the biggest jackboots of all the mods. They’re probably 6 feet tall. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/92 "2008-11-18T16:11:54Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Giraffe has the biggest jackboots of all the mods. They’re probably 6 feet tall. Apparently, he walks tall and carries a big stick…or did I mishear that last bit? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/93 "2008-11-18T16:35:02Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Apparently, he walks tall and carries a big stick…or did I mishear that last bit? You did. \*\*Giraffe \*\*actually walks tall and tarries a wig brick. We’re all still a bit uncertain as to what that actually means. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/94 "2008-11-18T16:38:08Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > You did. \*\*Giraffe \*\*actually walks tall and tarries a wig brick. We’re all still a bit uncertain as to what that actually means. No, he marries a fig wick. Get the wax out of your ears…uh, eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/95 "2008-11-18T16:43:45Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > No, he marries a fig wick. Get the wax out of your ears…uh, eyes. Are you sure? It’s not that he buries a Barbara Stanwyck? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/96 "2008-11-18T17:00:59Z")
**Lobsang** , have you considered seeing a therapist? Because you really cannot use the SDMB as therapy. I’ve been depressed before-there’s no shame in seeking help. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hot\_Buttered\_Toast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@Hot\_Buttered\_Toast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hot_Buttered_Toast)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/97 "2008-11-18T17:35:52Z")
**Lobsang** , I would gladly help your meltdown along if it meant you would stop posting contentless threads about your own self-loathing. Quite frankly, I think I am starting to feel the same way about you as you apparently feel about yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/98 "2008-11-18T17:47:13Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > **Nzinga** Every single meltdown thread I’ve ever seen has been ‘helped along’ by the dopers here. Some of whom are hungry for blood. [You aren’t the first one to notice this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=213540) ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/99 "2008-11-18T17:59:26Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > I’ll keep it short. A few months ago the company I work for said (in more carefully chosen words than those that follow) “We haven’t bothered to assess any of your individual performances. Instead we’re going to ignore actual pay rises and concentrate on the ‘bonus scheme’ which is based on how much money we make. Oh and by the way - here’s a tiny amount of money. This is your bonus” > > This hit me hard. I’d been working my ass off, doing some very useful things for the company. Basically I am the person _everyone_ in the enitre company comes to if they have a problem or question. I am the only person with the skills to make all our systems work properly. > > I felt like a fucking mug. I felt like the boss was happily asking all these things of me knowing that I’d be the loyal little puppy who will gladly accept nothing in return. I felt like I’d been a fucking idiot for doing all this work beyond my job descripition. No, you’re a fucking idiot for not going to your boss and telling him to _change_ your job description. Well, that and the whole mistaking-the-SDMB-for-a-blog thing. If you’re actually “the only person with the skills to make all our systems work properly” then you should be _making the case for a promotion,_ not pissing and moaning on a message board. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/100 "2008-11-18T18:22:04Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Giraffe has the biggest jackboots of all the mods. They’re probably 6 feet tall. [And wicked hot.](http://img2.timeinc.net/instyle/images/v2/fashionshow/SR__boot_giraffe_240.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229.md?page=6)