# Giraffe - Fuck you.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 18, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229 "2008-11-18T02:17:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/121 "2008-11-19T04:25:17Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I’d just like to mention that **Giraffe** is in the top three of SDMB mods,\<snip\>

By what criteria are we judging them? As **Boyo Jim** has suggested, similarity to the Antichrist? Shininess of their jackboots? Creative wearing of mod underoos?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/122 "2008-11-19T04:49:24Z")

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> [@flyboy](#):
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> How many times does he get to violate warnings before he gets the boot?

If there’s any problem that’s deserving of a revision in administrative policy, it’s that.  
Recently one of our more vile posters expressed his support for the destruction of the entire Jewish religion _by fire_ and received a warning against wishing genocide on any ethnic groups, and was told that sort of behavior was simply not acceptable. Then a short while later, the same mod specifically called the same poster out for a separate instance of trolling Israelis and suggesting that they would all best be kidnapped and murdered so as to avoid the necessity of allowing them to go on living.

I understand a soft touch, but sometimes the mods let far too much slide by.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/123 "2008-11-19T06:38:36Z")

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If they were to ban **Lobsang** after letting that kind of ethnic assault go by, they would seem rather inconsistent, wouldn’t they?

Oh. Forget it. (Jake, Chinatown, etc.)

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/124 "2008-11-19T07:19:13Z")

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They already seem rather inconsistent. 😃  
Witness, for instance, tom Warning LeKatt for saying that skeptics were mentally unwell while allowing der trihs to say that believers were “mentally ill” with nary a comment.

For the record, I don’t think that Lobang deserves banning… but if you receive a warning for something and then do the same thing again, there should be some sort of consequence other than another warning.

But yeah, anybody else in the mood for egg rolls?

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/125 "2008-11-19T07:32:32Z")

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Giraffes lay eggs? 😕

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/126 "2008-11-19T07:45:19Z")

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Nobody knows for sure.  
Many Bothan spies died to tell us what we know about [Giraffe’s Lair.](http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/foto-04-06.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/127 "2008-11-19T13:21:59Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> If there’s any problem that’s deserving of a revision in administrative policy, it’s that.  
> Recently one of our more vile posters expressed his support for the destruction of the entire Jewish religion _by fire_ and received a warning against wishing genocide on any ethnic groups, and was told that sort of behavior was simply not acceptable. Then a short while later, the same mod specifically called the same poster out for a separate instance of trolling Israelis and suggesting that they would all best be kidnapped and murdered so as to avoid the necessity of allowing them to go on living.
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> I understand a soft touch, but sometimes the mods let far too much slide by.

I missed this one. Linky-poo?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/128 "2008-11-19T13:24:23Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> Giraffes lay eggs? 😕

Eggs, carpet…anything they can get their hooves over.😃

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/129 "2008-11-19T14:31:35Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I missed this one. Linky-poo?

Sure, no problem. I can supply some background too, as I’ve posted about most of this before and I just have to go back through some of my older stuff.

[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8387543&postcount=78) the board’s very own pet Neo-Nazi offers his ever-so-coy wishes for a second Holocaust, the total destruction of Judaism via fire.  
Specifically he said “Moderate that rage please, _thoughts of obliteration, the erasure of Judaism from the face of the earth, the demolition of its temples and incineration of the last Torah, while entirely natural and to be expected_, these are marks of extremism and do not much assist.”  
[MEBuckner responded](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8391346&postcount=94) by saying “loose talk (however coyly phrased) about the extermination of entire ethnic or religious groups crosses the line. Don’t do this again, on any forum of this message board.”

About a year later (a short time, I’d argue, between instances of public support for genocide) our Neo-Nazi [opined that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10023397&postcount=60) “Now’s the best time of Shalit’s life. Low on liberty and a social life, but that is more than outweighed by _the benefits of separation from Israeli culture and practices_ . He’s in a relative paradise of civilisation and _the charitable hope is that there he remains **until the end of his days** _.” The Neo-Nazi then went on to elaborate, [stating that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10025738&postcount=67) “he’s certainly better off than brutalising himself to a living death through service in the West Bank IDF.”

That takes on an entirely different meaning when you realize that Shalit wasn’t even in the “West Bank IDF” but was captured in a cross-border raid from _Gaza into Israel._ So even Israelis who aren’t in the West Bank should be kidnapped by Hamas and left to their tender mercies "until the end of their days’

Of course, he was busy using one of his favorite mealy mouthed techniques of supporting the genocide of Israelis, namely suggesting that it really isn’t genocide since they are in a state of “living death” (much like his support of Hamas’ genocidal goals by claiming that they don’t really want to commit genocide since they consider Israelis to be [“already dead”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9716373&postcount=243) and his alignment with Hamas’ worldview with his own claims that the Israelis are [“dead already, in every way that matters.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9706697&postcount=156))

The slimy Neo-Nazi went as far as to [taunt Alessan with his trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10025757&postcount=68), as his claims that the Israelis are “already dead” and that they’d be better of being captured by Hamas leads to an inescapable (and deliberately unspoken) conclusion about what he believes should be done to the Israelis. But of course, like most racists, he’s too much of a coward to actually come right out and loudly proclaim his evil. He has to merely put forward ‘arguments by inference’.

At which point MEBuckner, the same mod who’d told him not to wish, however coyly, for the genocide of any groups… gave him [yet another](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10025978&postcount=70) in his long string of warnings, and another in the series of [official warnings for trolling via racism/bigotry directed at Jews/Israelis](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7135517&postcount=72).

Meaning that he receives roughly annual Warnings (after a Final Warning in 2006), and the majority of those warnings have been for trolling and for racism, bigotry or outright avocation of genocide directed at Jews or Israelis.  
All of that going together to show, of course, that the previous Warnings have all been full of sound and fury…

I of course leave it as a thought experiment to those reading along, to figure out just how quickly a poster would be banned for supporting the genocide of all homosexuals as “entirely natural and to be expected” or for saying that all liberals were “dead already” and that they should be kidnapped by terrorists, denied access by the Red Cross and never, ever, returned to their families… since captivity “until the end of their days” would be an improvement over liberal culture and practices…

~sigh~

Egg rolls. Can’t say enough about authentic egg rolls.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/130 "2008-11-19T15:21:17Z")

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I should have guessed who it would be. Ah well.

Thanks for the link.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/131 "2008-11-19T15:34:13Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Nobody knows for sure.  
> Many Bothan spies died to tell us what we know about [Giraffe’s Lair.](http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/foto-04-06.jpg)

Now instead of a Bond girl, I wanna be a Giraffe girl–that is some lair. All that place needs is Babar.

**Giraffe** is so hot, he’s on fire, dude!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/132 "2008-11-19T16:03:42Z")

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For some women it’s the surrealist Mansion of Mystery and Rugged Manly Danger… for others it’s that prehensile thing.

All I get is the ability to be omnifallable and shuffle along next to Anna Livia Plurabelle.  
~kicks dirt~

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/133 "2008-11-19T16:09:08Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> For some women it’s the surrealist Mansion of Mystery and Rugged Manly Danger… for others it’s that prehensile thing.
> 
> All I get is the ability to be omnifallable and shuffle along next to Anna Livia Plurabelle.  
> ~kicks dirt~

\<touches\*\* FinnAgain’s\*\* arm and looks at him earnestly\> It’s ok, **Finn** –I consider you a really good friend. Let’s stay friends, ok?

ETA: you’re still the best hod carrier I know.

(don’t kill me). 😃

**Koxinga** –meant to post this earlier–nice joke!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/134 "2008-11-19T17:27:52Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> \<touches\*\* FinnAgain’s\*\* arm and looks at him earnestly\> It’s ok, **Finn** –I consider you a really good friend. Let’s stay friends, ok?

Most likely okay. Pretty sure my fiancee prefers things that way too. As it is she definitely enjoyed the _Sopranos_ episode with the last appearance of Richie Aprile a bit too much 😃

> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> ETA: you’re still the best hod carrier I know.

Hod?  
Like on the Tree of Life?

I’ve been whooshed, haven’t I?

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/135 "2008-11-19T17:44:08Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Hod?  
> Like on the Tree of Life?
> 
> I’ve been whooshed, haven’t I?

Better than being stuck holding your Netzach, I suppose. That can make you go blind, you know.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/136 "2008-11-19T18:24:36Z")

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First this,

> [@](#):
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> I do. I have a boring, well paid job, And when I’m not doing job-related things I’m browsing an internet managed by surf-control. If we could browse wherever we wanted I’d spend very little time on the SDMB.

and then this,

> [@](#):
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> But in all seriousness what I’ll probably do is go to bed, then continue tomorrow as if nothing happened.

so why this?

> [@](#):
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> my behaviour on the dope (if what you say is true) is therefore clearly mirroriing my outlook on life - life is shit, the world is shit, the world is controlled by shit people, what fucking hope do I have of a nice life.

The part about the well-paid job doing job-related things concerns me… but if it’s true we could definitely all get jobs there. I’m especially interested in the nap-time benefits…mmm nap-time…

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/137 "2008-11-19T18:56:30Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> I have great respect for the good members here. But I am also hugely disappointed in the way other members behave when someone’s guard is down. Fuckers.

When someone’s guard is down? You have a major perception and perspective problem. Jesus, this isn’t a psychiatric ward, or nursery school. The SDMB is not your family, friends, or personal support group. It’s a message board where people answer questions and argue about stuff.

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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/138 "2008-11-19T18:58:01Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> When someone’s guard is down? You have a major perception and perspective problem. Jesus, this isn’t a psychiatric ward, or nursery school. The SDMB is not your family, friends, or personal support group. It’s a message board where people answer questions and argue about stuff.

How can you be so cold?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/139 "2008-11-19T19:00:59Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Better than being stuck holding your Netzach, I suppose. That can make you go blind, you know.

Just a myth.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giraffe-fuck-you/473229/140 "2008-11-19T19:57:39Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Most likely okay. Pretty sure my fiancee prefers things that way too. As it is she definitely enjoyed the _Sopranos_ episode with the last appearance of Richie Aprile a bit too much 😃
> 
> Hod?  
> Like on the Tree of Life?
> 
> I’ve been whooshed, haven’t I?

In book one of _Finnegan’s Wake_? He fell to his death. A hod carrier carries bricks. No clue re Tree of Life (is it made of bricks?).

Never mind. My humor and I will go away now. (and I’ve been whooshed re the Sopranos–never watched it). Good relationships depend on lack of clarity in communication, don’t you agree? 🙂

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