Girl names that used to be boy names

I knew a male Gale. :slight_smile:

Edited to add and one of my uni lecturers was an English male Robin and another was an American female Robin (I think that was the spelling).

Over the years, here in the mid-south USA, I’ve worked with several men named Dorris. Most were 55+ and the ones who were younger were juniors.

Doing volunteer work in the same area, I’ve come into contact with several older men named Car®oll (sometimes only one “r”, but always two "l"s) and several named Florence.

For the trifecta, I went to school (midwestern USA, late sixties to 1981) with a whole mess of guys named Stacey, Tracey, Kim, Courtney, Dana and Leslie. Also, my cousin and his wife gave their son their common middle name of Lynn.

All of these would be considered girl names now.

The lady who played the mother on The Waltons is also called Michael.

Francesco and Francesca are about equally old, though.

All this talk about Oscar Wilde made me want to link to the BBC documentary “Oscar Wilde Himself”, which has extensive interviews with both Merlin Holland (Oscar Wildes grandson) and Lady Alice Douglas (Bosie Douglas’s great-grand niece.) Granted, it’s from 1985, but it’s fascinating to see how close the past really is - the children of people who knew Oscar Wilde are still alive, he is barely out of living memory, even today. link

And the Ladys name even gives me an appropriate segue into something relevant to this thread, since Douglas is one of many rare names that have crossed the other way, having been a female first name, but now being primarily used as a male one.

I believe J.R.R. brother was named Hillary, which I find slightly amusing.

And next time you feel the need to complain about “Yuppies” spelling names with unnecessary Ys, blame Oscar Wilde :slight_smile:

Douglas is originally a place name, meaning (literally) “black blue” and (figuatively) “dark water.”

Well, yes. I was referring strictly to it’s history as a name for people.

BTW, does anyone know if there is a word for names that are also objects? Not whose origin is a place-name, or whose root is something or other, but where the word and the thing are the same. The most obvious examples are flower names, but there are others.

Surely you mean it literally means “black green” or “black grey”?

I am afraid I cannot hear the name Kendall without thinking of mint cake.

My spousal unit’s godmother’s name was Marion (with an O). She died a few years back and was in her 70s at the time. So there’s at least one female “Marion” who’s been around about as long as John Wayne.

My great uncle’s middle name was Madison.

No: [nerdly answer to follow] although glas encompasses shades of what English speakers call green and grey as well as blue, the darkest register (i.e the part that would be modified with “black”) is what English-speakers would call blue. Since the given name comes from a river name in Lanarkshire, where Welsh only gave way to Gaelic in the mid-middle ages, it is probably a calque on Brythonic glas rather than Old Irish glas, which is cognate but loses some of its semantic range to gorm and uaine.

I feel the same about “Mackenzie.”

I read a romance novel a long while ago and the heroine had a masculine name of Douglass. ( maybe with two s’s, maybe with one) and she had said it was an old scottish name , but I cannot remember if she mean the clan or for women. It was a time travel romancey kind.
It has always stuck with me and I’ve never found a female version of Douglas/s.

Then you need to fix the wiki.

A real life female Douglass is [URL = Douglas Sheffield, Baroness Sheffield - Wikipedia] Douglass Sheffield

:eek: They used to speak Welsh in Lanarkshire, in the middle of Scotland? (About 250 miles from Wales, mostly through English territory.)

Technically, it was British (the phase of the language before Old Welsh), but yes. “Lanark” is from a British word for “grove,” now “llanerch” in Welsh. It’s known as the Old Welsh North. Mind you, there must have been a sharp drop-off in British speakers after the British kingdom of Strathclyde fell about 1000 years ago.

At the New Year’s party I attended earlier this year, a couple had a little girl named Elliott. I blame Scrubs for that one.

You mean Ziegfeld, not Zeigfeld.

Marion Ross (Mrs. C on Happy Days) was originally Marian, but changed the spelling in 1941, when she was 13, already anticipating the day her name would appear on a marquee. William Randolph Hearst’s constant companion, however, was named Marion when born in 1897 – she never changed the spelling, although her last name of Douras was supplanted by Davies in the belief that a more British-sounding surname would help her prospects.

I’m guessing the people who game that name to a girl are thinking more along the lines of “has money to go to salons and get bombarded by UV rays”. :wink:

Yep – Evan Rachel Wood, for one.

(And incidentally, you’re quoted in my first link above. Just coincidence, I swear.)