# Girl to invade 100 acre wood

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 7, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573 "2005-12-07T22:27:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/1 "2005-12-07T22:27:00Z")

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Forget elves at Helms’ Deep! With Cat in the Hat and Grinch as desecrated classics, it was obvious that nothing was sacred. So, Disney is now adding a new human character to the Pooh cartoons, one that was never part of A.A. Milne’s original books - a little girl. See article in USA today. - sorry I don’t have a link.

PS - I’m not jparticularly upset about this, but I can see how purists would be.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/2 "2005-12-07T22:51:33Z")

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Pooh.

I get the impression the Disney cartoons have long since left Milne’s books far behind, but still… isn’t this sorta like if they made a new Charlie Brown cartoon in which grown-ups appear?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/3 "2005-12-07T23:02:51Z")

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With an actual girl there, does this mean Piglet will no longer have to be everybody’s bitch?

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/4 "2005-12-07T23:05:15Z")

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Did anyone complain about Lumpy the Heffalump, who made his debut this year? I remember reading that there were trepidations at Disney that he wouldn’t be well accepted, but I’ve heard no qualms.

The girl, as of yet unnamed, will appear in a new computer-animated Disney TV series _My Friends Tigger and Pooh_, which will premiere in 2007. [link](http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-12-06-winnie-the-pooh_x.htm) (Notice that Tigger gets top billing- he is now as popular, if not more popular, than Pooh himself.) The new series is part of the 80th anniversary of Pooh, who first appeared in the A.A. Milne books in 1926. Disney owns all rights to the Pooh characters.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/5 "2005-12-07T23:08:15Z")

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> [@Thudlow Boink](#):
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> I get the impression the Disney cartoons have long since left Milne’s books far behind, but still… isn’t this sorta like if they made a new Charlie Brown cartoon in which grown-ups appear?

Adults have appeared in some Peanuts animated specials and have spoken in some. Most notably is the miniseries _This Is America, Charlie Brown_, which seems to have been out of necessity- how could you teach about famous historical figures if they weren’t seen and/or heard?

“In 1863, Abe Lincoln gave his famous Gettysburg Address.”  
“Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah…”

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/6 "2005-12-07T23:16:59Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> Did anyone complain about Lumpy the Heffalump, who made his debut this year? I remember reading that there were trepidations at Disney that he wouldn’t be well accepted, but I’ve heard no qualms.

Wait, they made a character example of a creature that only existed in the minds of Pooh and Piglet and the rumor amongst the other animals?

I can’t imagine really getting that upset about it, but it does sort of undermine an important point of that story.

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**Author:** ![Siddhartha\_Vicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Siddhartha\_Vicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siddhartha_Vicious)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/7 "2005-12-07T23:45:33Z")

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'Bout damned time. Getting to be a regular sausage fest out there in the 100 Acre Woods.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/8 "2005-12-08T00:18:07Z")

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I **bet** she’s played by Dakota Fanning. Damn kid gets everywhere.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/9 "2005-12-08T01:54:22Z")

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Holy crap! Run away, [this](http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-12-06-winnie-the-pooh_x.htm) is all kinds of wrong!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/10 "2005-12-08T02:42:00Z")

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> Pooh appears to be a robust brand
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> the ones who brought the franchise down

I feel the love. I do.

But gah, adding a girl is one thing but entirely replacing Chris is just silly. If you’re trying to add something new and interesting to extend the story past everything done in the last 80 years, swapping out a girlish boy for a boyish girl doesn’t strike me as something that’s going to do it. Having both a girl and a boy and then you can get a whole new set of storylines never before possible–which is ostensibly the point.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/11 "2005-12-08T02:44:29Z")

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Not to mention, girls already love Winnie-the-Pooh, but I’m afraid this is going to kill any interest boys might have.

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**Author:** ![VernWinterbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c67d28/32.png) [@VernWinterbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VernWinterbottom)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/12 "2005-12-08T03:20:32Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> “In 1863, Abe Lincoln gave his famous Gettysburg Address.”  
> “Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah…”

Just wanted to give everybody the chance to read that again.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/13 "2005-12-08T09:42:22Z")

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Disney has already crapped all over the concept; anything they do to it at this point cannot possibly flog it past the crumbling, decayed equine corpse they have made it.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/14 "2005-12-08T09:57:47Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Disney has already crapped all over the concept; anything they do to it at this point cannot possibly flog it past the crumbling, decayed equine corpse they have made it.

It’s taken them this long to crap all over the concept? They managed it in just one film with _The Jungle Book_, though admittedly the songs were worth the price of admission in themselves.

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**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/15 "2005-12-08T14:00:30Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Holy crap! Run away, [this](http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-12-06-winnie-the-pooh_x.htm) is all kinds of wrong!

Og, that’s awful. The animation is horrible. But what else to expect from Disney, who destroyed the charm of the Milne books so very long ago.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/16 "2005-12-08T14:22:43Z")

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the nagging question is _what will her disorder be?_

Pooh is developmentaly disabled  
Tigger has ADD  
Eyeore is depressed  
Rabbit is anxious  
Piglet has OCD  
Owl is a narcissist  
Kanga and Roo appear relatively normal  
Christopher Robin is destined for a psychotic disorder with all these hallucinations of talking animals.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/17 "2005-12-08T14:33:47Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> It’s taken them this long to crap all over the concept? They managed it in just one film with _The Jungle Book_, though admittedly the songs were worth the price of admission in themselves.

No, they’ve been crapping over it pretty much constantly since the start. OK, maybe the first couple of animated features were in true earnest, but there is now quite a substantial patina of crap on it, as a result of sustained crapping on it over many years.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/18 "2005-12-08T14:35:04Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> Kanga and Roo appear relatively normal.

Oedipus complex.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/19 "2005-12-08T15:18:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Oedipus complex.

I… don’t see it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girl-to-invade-100-acre-wood/334573/20 "2005-12-08T15:26:20Z")

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My name is Christopher.

So for years I’ve been called Christopher Robin (not my middle name thank Og.) I almost gave in and named my cats Pooh and Tigger. Now my insecure-has-nothing-but-imaginary-friends-alter ego is being replaced by a girl in a bicycle helmet! How disgustingly PC. _Indeed!_ Why if this were the pit, I’d a have a hyperbolic word or two to say about _that_.

_:::stomps foot and wonders off muttering about who should be riding the short bus, Walt is rolling in his grave at how cutsy everything has gone. Or his nitrogen tank, or whatever:::_

(A few years ago the 100 acre lot of woods behind my house came up for sale. My friends gave me all kinds of grief over how cute it would be to buy the land. I’d love to but don’t have the cash.)

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