# girlie bars are good for your marriage.. ask the owner **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 12, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593 "2008-10-12T16:42:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/21 "2008-10-12T19:57:56Z")
Exactly \* are\* girlie bars good for your marriage? Is it just that they give the man a space of his own? What, he can’t go golfing or play pool? Hanging out with prostitutes is good for your marriage? ---
**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/22 "2008-10-12T20:11:15Z")
nope drinks are not watered down for the customers. ( in fact they get exceptionally healthy (sic) measures). ladies drinks are given in essentially shot sized glasses but seeiing as they work a full shift most girls either drink iced tea or ‘house margerita’ which is also designed not to get them wrecked. if the lady likes the guy and wants get drunk with him then she gets what she wants. and orders ---
**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/23 "2008-10-12T20:20:09Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Another thing that seems to have been missed by the OP is that acts as described in the other thread are pretty much illegal in most states of the US. A lap dance is allowed, but stimulation to ejaculation would probably be subject to charges of soliciting, public lewdness, etc., if they were witnessed by law enforcement (not that such acts NOT being witnessed by law enforcement makes them legal, but they can’t really arrest you for it if they don’t see it). prostitution is illegal in philippines also. there are no drugs in my bar ( or even in the bars in the same street) absolutely nothing underage. ( you know seriously i have never ever come across this as being a problem in manila) if the guy is rude or generally being a prick he is thrown out. we generate an lot of income for the city so the city tolerates us. we dont go out ofthe way to pess anyone off ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/24 "2008-10-12T21:04:23Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > It was a simple question, if they are being paid for sex then it is prostitution. > > I was asking because there is a large difference between that and the strip clubs here in the US. It is not normal for there to be sex involved in US clubs. If the club you are talking about regularly involves sex in exchange for money then it is not comparable to the thread you linked to. Antinor - Do strip clubs in the States really not involve prostitution? Would a girl be fired if she took a punter home? Manila - do the girls do lap dances? Could you describe one? ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/25 "2008-10-12T21:06:30Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > Antinor - Do strip clubs in the States really not involve prostitution? Would a girl be fired if she took a punter home? I didn’t say they never do, I said it wasn’t normal. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/26 "2008-10-12T21:06:57Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > Antinor - Do strip clubs in the States really not involve prostitution? Would a girl be fired if she took a punter home? If there was prostitution, it would most likely be independent on the part of the girl. Depending on the state, a club could lose its liquor license for even allowing lap dances or any touching of any kind. In Pennsylvania, they can’t even be completely nude. As an aside, I’ve been in gay clubs in DC that show porn on the TVs. We can’t do that in PA, either. ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/27 "2008-10-12T21:40:15Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > I didn’t say they never do, I said it wasn’t normal. Apologies - should have added “normally” myself. So when SO says “you can look but you can’t touch” s/he could be only pointing out the law. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/28 "2008-10-12T22:00:15Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > This isn’t necessarily a small thing. Guys seem very prone to that-stripper (or whatever)-really-likes-me-itis, and as the periodic scandals where some schmuck gets drunk and winds up with a $55,000 charge on his AMEX for bottles of Cristal at Scores show, both the girls and the proprietors have every incentive to milk the clientele (as it were). Just for the record, as NYC strip clubs go, Scores sucks (and not in any kind of good kind of sucking). ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/29 "2008-10-12T22:11:22Z")
What is the legal age in the Philippines? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/30 "2008-10-12T22:15:47Z")
> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > Apologies - should have added “normally” myself. > > So when SO says “you can look but you can’t touch” s/he could be only pointing out the law. I’d bet that HER law imposes harsher penalties for a violation here than the actual law… ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/31 "2008-10-12T22:32:43Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Just for the record, as NYC strip clubs go, Scores sucks (and not in any kind of good kind of sucking). Anything first popularized by Howard Stern would have a low chance of being good (IMHO). ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/32 "2008-10-15T03:36:06Z")
I’ve not much to add here really, but I wanted thank **manila** for starting this thread. Yay! Someone who understands the bars are not the demonic dens of iniquity the Western media luridly portray them as. I’ve not been in the bar business myself except as a drinker, but I know a few owners and plenty of the girls (these days just on a chatting basis, not a pay-for-play one). My wife has no qualms whatsoever about my hitting the bars occasionally, as I’ll be doing tonight. Our relationship is pretty solid. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/33 "2008-10-15T03:39:36Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’ve not much to add here really, but I wanted thank **manila** for starting this thread. Yay! Someone who understands the bars are not the demonic dens of iniquity the Western media luridly portray them as. I’ve not been in the bar business myself except as a drinker, but I know a few owners and plenty of the girls (these days just on a chatting basis, not a pay-for-play one). My wife has no qualms whatsoever about my hitting the bars occasionally, as I’ll be doing tonight. Our relationship is pretty solid. May I just say that when I go to Thailand, we definitely have to hangout. It won’t be anytime soon, but you always sound really cool and like you know how to have a good time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/34 "2008-10-15T03:47:36Z")
_blush_ ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/35 "2008-10-15T03:50:12Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I’ve not much to add here really, but I wanted thank **manila** for starting this thread. Yay! Someone who understands the bars are not the demonic dens of iniquity the Western media luridly portray them as. I’ve not been in the bar business myself except as a drinker, but I know a few owners and plenty of the girls (these days just on a chatting basis, not a pay-for-play one). My wife has no qualms whatsoever about my hitting the bars occasionally, as I’ll be doing tonight. Our relationship is pretty solid. Excellent. Flash Dopefest in Bangkok - we’ll all meet at the bar with the bargirls and the expensive drinks and the drunk westerners - you know the one. After that, Manila on the way home. ---
**Author:** ![phil417](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@phil417](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phil417)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/36 "2008-10-15T03:50:20Z")
> [@manila](#): > > inspired by this thread > > [My Husband is at a Strip Club and I Can't Stop Crying - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=487482) > > i didn’t want to comment in that thread as the op was obviously distraught and I don’t really want to pile on anyone’s unhappiness, ( even though i figured it is misplaced and self indulgent) > > but the premise was that her partner went to a batchelor party and had a good time with a dancer there and she felt betrayed. > > as my user name suggests i live in asia and although my main income is derived from working for a major oil company ( not here in asia) and some property investments , i am also a part owner of a bar in manila. > > our clients are mainly expat aussie, kiwi, US or brits. we get guys over here for the rugby tournies, or holidays or any number of reasons. got a question about far east asian girlie bars? > > am not a fly buy night guest am a paid up member and am willing to give you the straight dope. RESPONSE: That is, if I get the gist of his entry. Girly bars are good for his business. Girly bars bring in money. Money is good. Money makes him happy, so please go to girly bars. Phil ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/37 "2008-10-15T04:08:59Z")
> [@phil417](#): > > RESPONSE: That is, if I get the gist of his entry. Girly bars are good for his business. Girly bars bring in money. Money is good. Money makes him happy, so please go to girly bars. > > Phil Well, okay, if you insist. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/38 "2008-10-15T04:21:21Z")
The thread title reminds me of when a friend of mine worked at a photo place (you know, before everyone went digital). He, of course, used to make copies of all the best shots. He once brought a whole roll’s worth of pics to a party– the first half was this guy in bed with at least four Thai hookers, the second was of his traditional-looking wedding. I felt a bit bad for the bride at first, but with (likely herpes-ridden) balls like that, the groom was surely caught for something else within a month. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/39 "2008-10-15T04:24:27Z")
Not necessarily. The girls here tend to keep themselves pretty clean. Still, I hope he was wearing a condom! ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593/40 "2008-10-15T05:12:37Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Just for the record, as NYC strip clubs go, Scores sucks (and not in any kind of good kind of sucking). Scores is pretty much the worst strip club I’ve ever been to and I’ve been to a bunch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girlie-bars-are-good-for-your-marriage-ask-the-owner/467593.md?page=3)