# Girls and their toys - a porn question

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 28, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-and-their-toys-a-porn-question/362563 "2006-06-28T23:08:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-and-their-toys-a-porn-question/362563/21 "2006-06-29T22:58:37Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
There are two main types of girly toys - insertion and the vastly more popular clitoral stimulation. Insertion toys are what you let him play with on you, and clitoral are what 97% of women use when alone. When we do insert, it’s only those couple of inches. Why? To hit the g-spot, just two inches or so into the vagina. Any further up is pointless and actually irritating.

So yeah, while it feels good when you insert, it’s not so great for most women when a stand-alone piece of plastic inserts past the g=spot.  
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Thanks, **WhyNot**. Makes perfect sense. I’m just thinking that the male viewer would find a depiction of full penetration to be more arousing _to him_, and that the producers would logically depict what the average man wants to see. Then again, I’m only able to speak to my own preferences - what types of visual depiction arouses _me_. So maybe I just don’t fit into the “average porn viewer” category. I can tell you that I don’t like the standard porn star look (immense breasts, big hair, loads of makeup) _at all_, so I could easily be bitching about something that the “average porn viewer” finds sufficiently appealing.

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> Perhaps the insertion puts it into a different legal category. There are whole classes of magazines where girls might get ever so near, but never actually put a penis in their mouth. They just seem to breathe very heavily near it, or pose as if they are just about to.

Nah, I think that legally, insertion is insertion, regardless of depth. The models I see are penetrating - just not very deeply.

In the newstand men’s magazines, they’ve avoided showing penetration not because it was illegal, but because they feared that stores wouldn’t carry their product if they showed it. (This was brought up in another thread a few months ago, when somebody discovered that Penthouse pictorials now depict penetration - Bob Guccione’s last-ditch attempt to save his empire.)

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> Aww comon…you can leave is hanging like that! Tease!

Oh, all right. This was probably seventeen years ago. She was huge. Immense. I was pretty damn drunk. We got to her place, and she proceeded with “foreplay”. This consisted of her playing that song “Black Velvet” on her record player over and over and over while she rolled around on the floor in what I can only guess she thought was an erotic manner. She kept that up _for almost two hours_, long enough for me to start to sober up. I had made a few futile attempts to initiate the actual sex that I had come for, but each time she chided me for being in “too big a hurry”. At some point, I thought to myself, “What the HELL am I doing?” I finally mentioned that I was getting sleepy (it was almost 4:00 AM by this point - I wasn’t lying!) and that I needed to get home to bed. I excused myself as politely as I could, and made my escape. As I pulled away in my car, I could see her leaning out of her window, yelling, “Come baaaaack! Come baaaaaack!”

The next day I went back to the bar and ordered a beer. I started to tell my story to the bartender (who had seen me leave with this woman the night before), but I only got three and a half words out (“Oh man! Last ni-”) and he put his hands up and said, “I don’t want to hear it! I don’t want to know!” and then made for the other end of the bar as fast as he could. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mathochist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@Mathochist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mathochist)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-and-their-toys-a-porn-question/362563/22 "2006-06-30T09:41:27Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
Pick any freaky fetish you can think of, and I can almost guarantee that there are more porn items related to that, than “creampies”.  
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A standup comic I saw once called this the “magazine theory”. Think of the kinkiest, nastiest thing you’ve ever thought about. The one you don’t even like admitting to yourself you’ve pondered. Somewhere in the world there is a magazine devoted exclusively to that.

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> Maybe I should call it cervical porn.

Nah, that’s done with a dildo that has a small camera mounted inside.

No, I’m not kidding.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-and-their-toys-a-porn-question/362563/23 "2006-06-30T09:53:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
I wasn’t going to answer this, but this kind of…well, certainly not irk, but sort of bothered me. “Need”? Need, in masturbation? Well, the only thing you need is what gets you off…but you don’t always need to rushing to the goalposts, there’s plenty of fun to be had along the way!  
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Apologies, I’ll make the standard disclaimer IANAEIFM, I am not an expert in female (you get the rest).

I seem to be lucky enough to have a girlfriend who gets off on anything, minimal foreplay, no oral sex or anything else that magazines (mens’ and women’s) suggest is necessary for sex in the modern age.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-and-their-toys-a-porn-question/362563/24 "2006-06-30T11:28:49Z")

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Most women in mainstream porn are not sexually excited during the shoot, and are therefore not lubricated when they are posing with the toy. They could add artificial lube, as they would do in real life, but that does not seem to be the norm for a stills photo shoot.

The site I work on has far more realistic toy use in our shoots, however.

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