# Girls who have sex with relative strangers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 12, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894 "2009-01-12T09:44:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/221 "2009-01-15T04:25:24Z")

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I’m hurpies. Amours dolours.

Can we at least agree, that if you want me as much as I want you, we can turn this muther out?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/222 "2009-01-15T04:46:15Z")

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I have nothing to add to this discussion.

However, I would like to know what club this happened at. You know, for research purposes.

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**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/223 "2009-01-15T05:32:23Z")

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girls who have sex with relative strangers are better than girls who have sex with relatives strangely

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/224 "2009-01-15T05:34:37Z")

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Unless the relative stranger is someone like, say, a cousin she’s never met.

(Apologies if this has already appeared in some form. Not gone through the entire thread.)

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/225 "2009-01-15T05:57:32Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> You people are taking my statement much too literally. In evolutionary terms the guy who wants to cuddle and form an emotional bond with a woman is the guy who will ensure her and her children’s survival.

Unless it’s that a strong male is more likely to be the leader and make sure his mate and children have enough to eat.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/226 "2009-01-16T03:44:14Z")

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That assumes that emotional men are not leaders nor strong. Really, the behavior you describe sounds sociopathic. Which, I’m quite sure there have been many sociopathic leaders. It would explain the genetic basis for the sexual-sociopathic nature of the OP subject of this thread.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/227 "2009-01-16T11:45:03Z")

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No, it was more having fun with your reasoning, which fails to account why bad boys get some many girls. If there were a strong evolutionary drive for women to prefer emotional, cuddly guys, then the rich, the powerful and the daredevils would all be recuded to beating off .

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/228 "2009-01-16T16:14:13Z")

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Yep, every woman wants to marry a sociopath just like Daddy.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/229 "2009-01-16T16:34:22Z")

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> [@CalD](#):
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> I’d really like to know what the thought process is of young girls that do this sort of thing. Are they able to do it without feeling any hint of regret? Without feeling cheapened? I know of a couple of girls who have done this, but they’ve told me they did have feelings of regret about it. What about these girls that seem to do it without any ill-feeling at all? **What’s their thought process?**
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> In the young female demographic, are we approaching a situation in which the majority of young women are open to doing this kind of thing, without feeling bad about it?

Some have such low self esteem that this activity appears to elevate them, they are able to feel wanted and, while not ‘loved’ as such they respond to the appearance of love through the feeling of lust. It is a sort of addiction craving acceptance. I do believe it does cause long term damage for the short term benefit.

I would say my statement could also apply for males also.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/230 "2009-01-16T16:49:40Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Consider a case like King Arthur’s - if the Queen had taken a lover early in their marriage and secretly gotten pregnant by another man, Britain might have been the better for it!

Crazy talk. If Arthur hadn’t seduced and nailed his half-sister (and his good friend’s wife), Britain might have been better for it, too.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/231 "2009-01-16T16:58:53Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Crazy talk. If Arthur hadn’t seduced and nailed his half-sister (and his good friend’s wife), Britain might have been better for it, too.

Well, of course. But had there been a seemingly \*legitimate \*male heir (this was before DNA testing, of course), Mordred (even if he was even Arthur’s - earlier tales have him the son of Lot) wouldn’t have had much of a case.

This angle was attempted in _Mists of Avalon_, of course, where Arthur, Gwen and Lance all have sex together, with the unspoken goal of having her impregnated by someone, _anyone_, with the literal defense of always having shared a bed with her husband. (Of course, it’s more than hinted that Arthur was in love with Lance, as well, so it was really win-win for him.) I’ve seen other versions where Arthur either encouraged or pointedly let Gwen know he’d feign ignorance if she got pregnant by his best friend, as long as she was discrete about it.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/232 "2009-01-16T17:00:33Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Some have such low self esteem that this activity appears to elevate them, they are able to feel wanted and, while not ‘loved’ as such they respond to the appearance of love through the feeling of lust. It is a sort of addiction craving acceptance. I do believe it does cause long term damage for the short term benefit.

Jeez, y’all are judgmental. Can’t somebody just like to have fun?

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/233 "2009-01-16T17:24:49Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Well, of course. But had there been a seemingly \*legitimate \*male heir (this was before DNA testing, of course), Mordred (even if he was even Arthur’s - earlier tales have him the son of Lot) wouldn’t have had much of a case.
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> This angle was attempted in _Mists of Avalon_, of course, where Arthur, Gwen and Lance all have sex together, with the unspoken goal of having her impregnated by someone, _anyone_, with the literal defense of always having shared a bed with her husband. (Of course, it’s more than hinted that Arthur was in love with Lance, as well, so it was really win-win for him.) I’ve seen other versions where Arthur either encouraged or pointedly let Gwen know he’d feign ignorance if she got pregnant by his best friend, as long as she was discrete about it.

Ugh. The Mists of Avalon does not exist.

Hell, if Uther hadn’t wanted to have his way with Ygraine, Britain would have been spared chaos, war, and the deaths of countless thousands. Britain probably would have been better off if everyone could control his/her baser impulses. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/234 "2009-01-16T17:45:49Z")

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Man is this a wierd wandering thread. 😛

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/235 "2009-01-16T17:55:35Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Some have such low self esteem that this activity appears to elevate them, they are able to feel wanted and, while not ‘loved’ as such they respond to the appearance of love through the feeling of lust. It is a sort of addiction craving acceptance. I do believe it does cause long term damage for the short term benefit.
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> I would say my statement could also apply for males also.

it can also be a power trip from the fem side - look what I made you do

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/236 "2009-01-16T18:34:12Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Ugh. The Mists of Avalon does not exist.

😃

Not meant as a cite, just an admission that the idea isn’t uniquely mine.

> [@](#):
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> Hell, if Uther hadn’t wanted to have his way with Ygraine, Britain would have been spared chaos, war, and the deaths of countless thousands. Britain probably would have been better off if everyone could control his/her baser impulses. 🙂

Well, I was GONNA use Henry VIII for my example, only his subfertility isn’t quite so well established (he did apparently produce four kids after all, just not at the right time of the correct gender!), but I thought most people might relate to Arthur better.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/237 "2009-01-16T18:39:06Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> I’m hurpies. Amours dolours.
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> Can we at least agree, that if you want me as much as I want you, we can turn this muther out?

I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out what this even means.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/238 "2009-01-16T19:00:53Z")

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He’s proposing to penetrate you.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/239 "2009-01-16T19:25:50Z")

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> [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](#):
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> I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out what this even means.

I thought the “amours dolours” bit might be an extremely oblique reference to Machaut or to a composition by Adam de la Halle.

Can’t help you with the hurpies bit.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/girls-who-have-sex-with-relative-strangers/480894/240 "2009-01-16T19:27:37Z")

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> [@maladroit](#):
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> it can also be a power trip from the fem side - look what I made you do

I agree

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