# Giuliani buggered out of Iraq Study Group to give $$$ speeches

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 19, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giuliani-buggered-out-of-iraq-study-group-to-give-speeches/408634 "2007-06-19T19:54:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 22, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giuliani-buggered-out-of-iraq-study-group-to-give-speeches/408634/161 "2007-06-22T14:13:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]  
If your comments of the Marcotte matter differ from my recollection of them in the beginning of this thread by any degree  
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That’s hard to evaluate, of course. You’ve only provided one quote from the Marcotte thread, whose meaning in the context of this thread is obscure at best. And your recollection is safely in your head.

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> they certainly don’t do so by such sufficient to justify the hyperactive response you have given.

My problem was that you kept on making new arguments, based on what I regarded as flimsy to nonexistent backing, while refusing to deal with the old ones you’d raised. Since you’d made my supposed inconsistency in my treatment of Giuliani and Edwards (and ultimately my treatment of _any Republican_ relative to Edwards) the issue, you could keep on bringing up stuff from all sorts of past threads and just kinda throw it at the screen.

Two things you should expect: (1) that I’d refuse to let you drop one of those random flings when it didn’t prove to be to your immediate rhetorical advantage, but make you actually stick around and defend it; and (2) if you chose to make _me_ the issue, that I might choose to make _you_ the issue.

If that doesn’t suit you, then it might not be a bad idea for you in the future to debate the issue on the merits, rather than make your debate adversary the issue.

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> I’m retracting my criticism on that point, and shouldn’t have pressed that issue quite as long as I did. That’s about all, though.

Welcome back to reality.

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