# give a crappy series/concept the BSG treatment **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985 "2010-05-27T20:00:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/1 "2010-05-27T20:00:28Z")
we just hired Ron Moore to give the BSG treatment to whatever series or concept from movies and tv we decide on, whats your choice? for me F—ING Star Wars, take the entire thing and break it down into a 3-5 year series with a decent budget. Imagine the star wars universe done in grey scale instead of hard edged black and white everywhere. where Han Solo not only shoots first he shoots Greedo in the BACK! ---
**Author:** ![Like\_Fry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@Like\_Fry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Like_Fry)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/2 "2010-05-27T20:35:37Z")
As long as it doesn’t end like BSG did that could be fun to watch. Or turn into the prequels… I.e keep it classic new hope, empire, and return. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/3 "2010-05-27T20:44:22Z")
I wouldn’t mind Buck Rogers getting it. I loved that show as a kid, but it was so cheesey with some pretty bad acting all around. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/4 "2010-05-27T20:55:11Z")
> [@Like\_Fry](#): > > As long as it doesn’t end like BSG did that could be fun to watch. Imagine _Bonanza_ ending with Hoss and Little Joe as angels. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/5 "2010-05-27T21:09:13Z")
How about _The Invaders_ ? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/6 "2010-05-27T21:14:21Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Imagine _Bonanza_ ending with Hoss and Little Joe as angels. Wait … wasn’t that Touched by a Little House? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/7 "2010-05-27T21:25:50Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Wait … wasn’t that Touched by a Little House? I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/8 "2010-05-27T21:31:08Z")
Now **carnivorousplant** , show the policeman where the Little House touched you. It’s okay, mommy and daddy won’t be mad at you. ---
**Author:** ![Musky\_Moon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@Musky\_Moon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musky_Moon)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/9 "2010-05-27T22:24:34Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I wouldn’t mind Buck Rogers getting it. I loved that show as a kid, but it was so cheesey with some pretty bad acting all around. They did this already…it was called Farscape. 😉 I wouldn’t mind seeing Tales of the Golden Monkey redone as a gritty smuggler’s story. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/10 "2010-05-27T22:58:21Z")
The original _ **Land of the Lost** _ upgraded from a Saturday morning kiddie show to serious primetime science fiction. Premises: An artificial universe, built by a now-extinct race of intelligent dinosaurs. The struggle of the Marshall family in the short term to survive and in the long term learn enough about an almost Clarke-level technology to seek a way home. Hints that somehow the LotL is important both to humanity’s primeval origins and it’s deep future. An alien being (the Zarn) with an agenda most unfavorable to the human species. Solicit scripts from major sf writers like Niven and Bova, and this could be wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/11 "2010-05-27T23:22:14Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Wait … wasn’t that Touched by a Little House? I’ll get you for that! And your little dog too! Oh wait, that was someone else touched by a house. Or is that about Michael Landon having a gay romance with Hugh Laurie? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/12 "2010-05-28T00:17:28Z")
I like the idea of updating an old series to a serious gritty adventure drama. I don’t like the thought of it being Ron Moore. Anyhoo, I’d choose _Catweazle_, _The Man From UNCLE_, and _Sapphire and Steel_. I notice that my choices are all British, so perhaps I’m really after Russell T Davies rather than Ron Moore. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/13 "2010-05-28T00:34:21Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > The original _ **Land of the Lost** _ upgraded from a Saturday morning kiddie show to serious primetime science fiction. Premises: > > An artificial universe, built by a now-extinct race of intelligent dinosaurs. The struggle of the Marshall family in the short term to survive and in the long term learn enough about an almost Clarke-level technology to seek a way home. Hints that somehow the LotL is important both to humanity’s primeval origins and it’s deep future. An alien being (the Zarn) with an agenda most unfavorable to the human species. > > Solicit scripts from major sf writers like Niven and Bova, and this could be wonderful. And the thread is over. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/14 "2010-05-28T00:38:36Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > I wouldn’t mind Buck Rogers getting it. I loved that show as a kid, but it was so cheesey with some pretty bad acting all around. We didn’t watch it for the acting. We watched it for Erin Gray in spandex. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/15 "2010-05-28T01:31:50Z")
Could you redo some sitcoms as more serious. Ray Walston used to say he wanted “My Favorite Martian” to be more serious, an outsider exploring Earth society. Instead, they played it for laughs. A SDer once said the first couple episodes of “The Brady Bunch” were a bit more serious in looking at a blended family, then they poured out the bags of sugar. Never saw it but the brief season of Jim Bouton’s “Ball Four” was by all accounts atrocious. It could be done well, it’s such a great book. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/16 "2010-05-28T02:12:20Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Anyhoo, I’d choose … _The Man From UNCLE_. AKA Alias 😛 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/17 "2010-05-28T03:22:25Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I like the idea of updating an old series to a serious gritty adventure drama. I don’t like the thought of it being Ron Moore. ^this. Partly because I’m sleepy, the first premise that came to mind for getting an update and re-imagining was ‘Roswell.’ But, dammit, Ronald D. Moore was one of the writers who RUINED that show! For killing off Alex if nothing else. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/18 "2010-05-28T04:32:46Z")
well it doesnt really have to be Moore, just the concept, to produce movie grade episodes with actual human characters instead of the usual clearly defined good v evil set up we always get. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/19 "2010-05-28T11:26:21Z")
Well, I wouldn’t really call it “crappy,” but how about…Airwolf? Hell, you wouldn’t have to grim-&-gritty the whole thing up that much, if you just showed the plausible consequences of a rogue superweapon being operated on behalf of a semi-rogue branch of the CIA, and gave it a story arc stretching a season or two. Actually, it’d probably be a bit like all the stuff we _didn’t_ see happening in the backstory between the Iron Man movies, just with fewer robots and less of a sense of hope. Gotta keep the main theme, though…just have the Prague Philharmonic do a string cover in a different key, with an opening cue sung in Breton. All dramatic. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Musky\_Moon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90db22/32.png) [@Musky\_Moon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musky_Moon)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985/20 "2010-05-28T11:38:14Z")
I like this thread! I’m thinking a reboot of The Greatest American Hero with a little Watchmen mixed in. The main character is a normal guy who obtains super powers, but has an existential crisis about being the only enhanced human. Even though he’s super, the risks are real and being the hero can get him killed.He also has to wrestle with whether he is an American hero or one for the whole human race. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-crappy-series-concept-the-bsg-treatment/540985.md?page=2)