# Give a gay spin to a classic story **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604 "2009-03-16T12:14:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/21 "2009-03-17T13:41:53Z")
Well, all I can say is that Rhett was never truly after Scarlett: he set his sights on Ashley Wilkes, the very first time he saw him at that picnic… ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/22 "2009-03-17T13:53:50Z")
I didn’t like _Million Dollar Baby_ at all, but think a gay/incestual theme would make a nice twist, with all the boxing and training scenes, not to mention the opportunity for sponge baths towards the end. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/23 "2009-03-17T14:09:52Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > Lord Of The Cockrings: Part One “Who’s in this cinematic milestone?” – Perry Van Shrike, _Kiss Kiss Bang Bang_ It’s hardly even spin as the homoerotic subtext is just bubbling below the surface[sup]\*[/sup], but adding a more explicit romantic relationship between Rick and Captain Renault in _Casablanca_ would trim in easily. Stranger [sup]\*[/sup]“Well, Rick is the kind of man that… well, if I were a woman, and I were not around, I should be in love with Rick.” "She was asking about you earlier in a way that made me very jealous… " “Why Ricky, I’m pleased with you ! Now you’re beginning to live like a Frenchman!” Yeah, he’s totally into Rick. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/24 "2009-03-17T16:44:03Z")
Citizen Gayn: The true meaning of Rosebud is a man’s… well, rosebud. ---
**Author:** ![KRC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@KRC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KRC)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/25 "2009-03-17T17:06:14Z")
I once read a version of The Steadfast Tin Soldier where the tin soldier fell in love with a GI Joe instead of a toy ballerina. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/26 "2009-03-17T19:36:05Z")
[It’s already been done with back to the Future.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uwuLxrv8jY) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/27 "2009-03-17T20:35:49Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > The Mutiny on the Bounty could have a field day with the gay subtext, what with all the seamen. There was a film version of this called The Bounty with Mel Gibson and Anthony Hopkins and one review I remember reading suggested that Captain Bligh (Hopkins) lusted after Fletcher Christian (Gibson). ---
**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/28 "2009-03-17T20:46:17Z")
Once Rhett Butler learned what it’s like to be scorned by the person you love the most (one Scarlett O’ Hara), he reunited with the only person who ever truly loved him: his roommate at West Point military academy. Being young and brash, he had rejected his friend’s advances and set about perfecting a devilish charm that no woman could resist. In his heart, though, he was deeply sorry for the pain he had caused and wondered whether he had done the right thing. After Rhett’s heart was broken, he resolved never to open it to another human being. What he didn’t see coming, though, was the letter from his old friend asking him to come up to New York for a while. Both wounded in the battle of love, they grew to trust and care for each other, and eventually became like any other old married couple: they bickered and nagged and annoyed each other, but ultimately loved and would die for each other. I’m having too much fun with this. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/29 "2009-03-17T20:59:12Z")
I always thought that at some point Scarlett’s son Wade became his Uncle Ashely’s constant companion. The spin was the Ashley could never love another woman after Melanie died, and Wade sacrificed himself to take care of Ashley and work as his business partner. ---
**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/30 "2009-03-18T02:12:31Z")
Not quite a “story,” but a saw this in a revue once and thought it was extremely clever: Two teenaged boys meet under the bleachers, nervously look around, and then, once they’re satisfied that nobody’s looking, kiss. After making out a bit, they begin to discuss whether or not anyone knows about their relationship, and resolve that they’re going to have to be more discrete, because rumors are starting to get around. Cue music, and the boys begin to sing: [SPOILER][LARRY: Why do they think up stories that link my name with yours? CURLY: Why do the neighbors chatter all day, behind their doors?..]([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WkUIaWb6M](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WkUIaWb6M))[/SPOILER] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/31 "2009-03-18T03:27:00Z")
“Why did you laugh then, when I said ‘man delights not me’?” – _Hamlet,_ Act II, Scene 2 (This will be the version where Ophelia’s mad scene is actually inspired by her walking in on Hamlet and Laertes in an unguarded moment.) ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/32 "2009-03-18T04:05:50Z")
Why am I getting the feeling that bringing teh gay to _any_ storyline is a mundane exercise? Or is that the point? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/33 "2009-03-18T04:18:50Z")
I always thought the perfect sequel for **Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?** would be for the hot college age son of Matt (S. Poitier) and Joey (Katharine Houghton) to bring home his “Surprise!” boyfriend on their 25th anniversary. Like the first we’d probably see how “live and let live” is a bit different- at least for a time- when the people are living in your house. I’ve never seen _High School Musical_ (tried, couldn’t watch it) but I know many found irksome that Disney wouldn’t even let the gay character be gay (though the actor “went gay” in _Milk_, even getting busy with Emile Hirsch for a few seconds). Nevertheless, a gay plotline could have been easily added. In the tradition of Dumbledore’s outing, I think Yoda was a screaming queen, though difficult to prove his homosexuality was since another member of his race you never saw. I’d love to see a gay western. _Brokeback Mountain_ doesn’t count- I want Indians and barfights. Perhaps one of the younger Carradines could play the lead role- a gay Amerasian who roams the west like Cain redecorating those gaudy saloons and whorehouses into something far more comfortable- “In the tradition of KUNG FU, it’s… FENG SHUI! Tonight’s special guest star: Harvey Fierstein as Ulysses S. Grant.” ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/34 "2009-03-18T16:03:22Z")
You don’t have to go overboard on the gay western. Maybe a compromise: **Bi Noon**. From what I hear, old westerns were pretty much flaming homoerotica from one end to the other. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/35 "2009-03-18T16:06:29Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > There was a film version of this called The Bounty with Mel Gibson and Anthony Hopkins and one review I remember reading suggested that Captain Bligh (Hopkins) lusted after Fletcher Christian (Gibson). Methinks the reviewer projects too much. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/36 "2009-03-18T16:28:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I > > I’d love to see a gay western. _Brokeback Mountain_ doesn’t count- How about lesbian Western: Joan Crawford and Mercedes McCambridge in “Johnny Guitar.” ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/37 "2009-03-18T23:22:10Z")
I recently saw a gender-swapped version of Aladdin (Ally-Adin gets the lamp and in the end marries the prince, which is not too weird, but the genie was Yogi Bear with help from Boo-Boo) and now I think I’d rather watch the gay twist version- minus well-known cartoon characters as genies. > [@KGS](#): > > I could go for some Scarecrow/Cowardly Lion action right about now. In the books, I’d say it’s a lot closer to Scarecrow/Tin Woodsman- the Cowardly Lion hangs out with the Very Hungry Tiger. Even when I was a third grader staying up late to read my mom’s old copies of the Oz books, I thought there was Scarecrow/Tin Man subtext, although I perceived it in a more innocent way back then. (Ditto Ozma, Dorothy, and the other young girls who came from America to Oz.) ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604/38 "2009-03-19T01:04:10Z")
_Green Card_ could be re-done as _Pink Card_. When they enter into a same-sex marriage for convenience sake, not only can the plot deal with their dawing realization that they’re really gay and falling in love, the filmaker could get in a contemporaneous plug for legalization of same-sex marriage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-gay-spin-to-a-classic-story/489604.md?page=1)