# Give a TV show you love (or used to) a much-needed kick in the ass.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 28, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314 "2011-01-28T17:13:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/21 "2011-01-28T22:46:01Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I have no interest in chicks, of any ethnicity. How about putting some more ordinary looking women into shows, for the women viewers to feel good about?
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> Law & Order: Bring back the original series, dump most of the spinoffs. If we absolutely MUST have SVU, get rid of the female detective. I’m tired of watching her Empathize with the victims. I don’t object to her because she’s female, and I’d be happy to see another female detective. But I want to watch a cop who is a COP, not a nanny.

Soon there will be only one L&O spinoff remaining; CI ends this year. I blame the French.

While I actually like Benson (the female detective on SVU, played by Mariska Hargitay), I too would like too see both her and Stabler go, simply because they’ve pretty much exhausted their storytelling possibilities. Also, it was premise of the show in the early days that no one stayed in that unit long, simply because it was so emotionally draining. I’d not object to a wholesale turnover, keeping, say, Fin on as the new unit commander and dumping the rest.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/22 "2011-01-29T04:25:55Z")

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Imagine the fan backlash if they got rid of either Stabler or Benson on SVU, I think they’d be better off just ending it. If they were going to retool I’d say bring back the episodes where Munch and Fin got to actually do something, and maybe that will distract from how stale some of the Stabler/Benson storylines have become (or we could have Stabler and Benson in a state of undress every episode, I would also approve of that as a distraction).

If any of the detectives left they’d have to bring back Cabot or Novak as the DA to keep me interested. I want to at least pretend it’s the glory days, even if we’re well past them!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/23 "2011-01-29T05:53:14Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> If any of the detectives left they’d have to bring back Cabot or Novak as the DA to keep me interested.

Novak, but only as a redhead.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/24 "2011-01-29T13:52:20Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> While I actually like Benson (the female detective on SVU, played by Mariska Hargitay), I too would like too see both her and Stabler go, simply because they’ve pretty much exhausted their storytelling possibilities. Also, it was premise of the show in the early days that no one stayed in that unit long, simply because it was so emotionally draining. I’d not object to a wholesale turnover, keeping, say, Fin on as the new unit commander and dumping the rest.

[spoiler]This is Stabler’s last season.

[http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/omg\_svu\_WbCfyKeSS4Czh9m6MRiblM[/spoiler]](http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/omg_svu_WbCfyKeSS4Czh9m6MRiblM%5B/spoiler%5D)

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/25 "2011-01-29T23:02:24Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> [spoiler]This is Stabler’s last season.
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> [http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/omg\_svu\_WbCfyKeSS4Czh9m6MRiblM[/spoiler]](http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwrap/omg_svu_WbCfyKeSS4Czh9m6MRiblM%5B/spoiler%5D)

I’ll have to spoiler-box my response:

10 to 1 he leaves after killing someone. 😃

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/26 "2011-01-30T01:34:22Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> I would never, ever want to encounter an all-nude episode of _Hoarders_.

Umm hello. One of the therapists is a Tina Fey doppleganger. I’m tempted to trash my house just to get her to come over and help me clean. I’d watch that.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/27 "2011-01-30T02:41:38Z")

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_The CBS Evening News_ - Bring back Walter Cronkite!

What? Oh. Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/28 "2011-01-30T03:53:35Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Imagine the fan backlash if they got rid of either Stabler or Benson on SVU, I think they’d be better off just ending it. If they were going to retool I’d say bring back the episodes where Munch and Fin got to actually do something, and maybe that will distract from how stale some of the Stabler/Benson storylines have become (or we could have Stabler and Benson in a state of undress every episode, I would also approve of that as a distraction).
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> If any of the detectives left they’d have to bring back Cabot or Novak as the DA to keep me interested. I want to at least pretend it’s the glory days, even if we’re well past them!

Yes, more Munch and Fin, there is so much potential for them to have good professional fights over cases.

Oakminister, great idea. Even though it was still better than most of what was on television at the time, BSG deserved better than Season 4.0 and beyond.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/29 "2011-01-30T04:06:07Z")

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Oh, and on Bones, Bennett and Boothe need to have sex or the show needs to end soon. I do not want to watch a Moonlighting 2011.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/30 "2011-01-31T04:25:59Z")

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> [@fusoya](#):
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> Umm hello. One of the therapists is a Tina Fey doppleganger. I’m tempted to trash my house just to get her to come over and help me clean. I’d watch that.

Yes, but consider that an all-nude episode might also feature hoarders who have been without running water for months. :eek:

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/31 "2011-01-31T05:04:37Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> **Burn Notice** = fewer episodes per season might actually be better because they all blend in.
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> Stop having every episode begin with “I’ve got a job, it should be real easy, just involves helping an old lady cross the street” that ends up involving two helicopter explosions, Fiona playing bloody-eagle with a Danish crime lord, Sam/Chuck getting punched and Michael posing as a one legged sheik- have a flat out “This job is going to be one hell of a bitch”.

I don’t now if they need less episodes, but they need to split them up evenly. This last season had 12 summer episodes and 6 winter episodes. The summer felt way too long and the winter felt way too short. 8 and 8 or 9 and 9 would be much better. And I think they need to throw a couple extra “story” episodes a season, not just the season finales.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/32 "2011-01-31T05:29:53Z")

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**The Venture Bros** needs to go back to doing some one-off ADVENTURES. You know, the Johnny Quest style single episode unlikely adventures they did a lot of in the first two seasons, which are what the show was supposed to be a parody of.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/33 "2011-01-31T15:21:28Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Just my own personal preference, but - Dirty Jobs aren’t so much ‘dirty’ any more.

Absolutely. It’s gotten to be “difficult jobs” or even just “jobs”. I recognize that they’re running out of dirty jobs, but then the show needs to end, as much as I love it. I have no interest in watching Mike just hang out with people, funny as he is.

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> Kind of stretching the concept, some of them… And more animal dirty jobs!  
> There’s nothing so hilarious as Mike Rowe doing something terrible to an animal for its own good! (Maybe it should be a spinoff show, with veterinarians…oh, maybe not)

I almost agree. There is one thing better: Mike Rowe going inside a tiny dirty hole of some sort. The only thing worth watching in the otherwise boring as dirt Rum distillery episode was Mike getting into the still to clean it.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/34 "2011-01-31T15:24:10Z")

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Hey, hey…we’re the Monkees…such fun for your average teenybopper and I was that then…but this is now.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/35 "2011-01-31T15:47:06Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Oh, and on Bones, Bennett and Boothe need to have sex or the show needs to end soon. I do not want to watch a Moonlighting 2011.

Every person on Bones needs to be eaten by wolves, who are in turn eaten by more wolves. I used to like this show, but it’s gotten totally stupidly overblown to the point that it seems like parody.

Also before being eaten by wolves, Sweets needs to be thrown out of a window from a tall building.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/36 "2011-01-31T15:53:15Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> How so, Oak? We watched the whole series recently, and while I share you distaste for the woo-woo ending, I’m not sure what I’d change. Admittedly I haven’t thought about it in detail.

Hmmmm…well, not going into huge detail, and not sure which episodes marked the start of which season, considering the half-season blocks that were broadcast, but…

Starting with the “death” of Starbuck–that either doesn’t happen, or if it does, she’s gonna stay dead. With that as a point of departure, I’m probably going to take it in the direction of them finding our Earth–coming up with an explanation for the Dylan tune that fits, maybe swapping out some of the Final Five–never ever liked Saul M\_F Tigh being a Cylon. Might actually pull the trigger on a “humans lose—everything” scenario, with the Cylon fleet wiping out Earth…or both sides perishing in a climatic battle (possibly with survivors limping away in opposite directions so that all of this can happen again in another 30 years or so…and absolutely no “God did it” woo-woo crap in there.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/37 "2011-01-31T16:28:36Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Absolutely. It’s gotten to be “difficult jobs” or even just “jobs”. I recognize that they’re running out of dirty jobs, but then the show needs to end, as much as I love it. I have no interest in watching Mike just hang out with people, funny as he is.
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> I almost agree. There is one thing better: Mike Rowe going inside a tiny dirty hole of some sort. The only thing worth watching in the otherwise boring as dirt Rum distillery episode was Mike getting into the still to clean it.

“Dirty Jobs: Chernobyl Tour Guide” could be entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/38 "2011-01-31T16:56:24Z")

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Well the solution to “Dirty Jobs” is simple enough: go into the dirty jobs managers do. “Lobbyist” – have a corporate lobbyist show Mike how you use legal donations combined with personal visits to bribe a politician without getting involved in any legally dfficult quid-pro-quo business. “PR Expert” – shows Mike how to lie on TV about things your company has done or not done, how to create misleading advertisements, how to set up charity programs to make your company look good. “Outsorcerer” – shows Mike how to look for opportunity to fire high-priced American workers and replace them with low-priced third-world workers. “Chainsaw” – shows Mike how you take a company or division of a company and make it more lucrative by firing large numbers of people. “Shark in Suit” – shows Mike how functional psychopaths can succeed in a corporate environment while making everyone he knows miserable.

Really, this would give the show a new lease on life!

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/39 "2011-01-31T17:06:38Z")

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Regarding _Hoarders_, what would really make the show grand is if they ran a special “MST3K” style episode. The online snarking community for that show is so popular that at last count seven of the cleaners/therapists have checked in and three of them (Cory Chalmers, Matt Paxton, and Robin Zasio) are regular contributors! _Hoarders_ is so eminently snarkable, such a weekly trainwreck, that I honestly am beginning to wonder whether it’s specifically edited for laughs…having a comedy background is the obvious next step.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-a-tv-show-you-love-or-used-to-a-much-needed-kick-in-the-ass/569314/40 "2011-01-31T18:35:56Z")

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Dr.Who, lose the quirky humour, it was good for a while, but now lets have some "dark"stuff.

Also more alien planets, less visits to Earth.

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