# Give it up LIB ER AL s **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816 "2010-07-24T06:12:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/41 "2010-07-24T15:51:53Z")
I can’t figure out if the style is more E.E. Cummings or William Carlos Williams. ---
**Author:** ![EVIL\_COW\_PIE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@EVIL\_COW\_PIE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EVIL_COW_PIE)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/42 "2010-07-24T16:01:09Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > So once again, you have posted a bunch of incoherent nonsense and when you are called on by every subsequent poster you blame everyone else for their inability to decode your gibberish. Ouch, that’s kind of harsh. What do you have against gibberish. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/43 "2010-07-24T16:05:29Z")
> [@EVIL\_COW\_PIE](#): > > > [@zoid](#): > > > > So once again, you have posted a bunch of incoherent nonsense and when you are called on by every subsequent poster you blame everyone else for their inability to decode your gibberish. > > Ouch, that’s kind of harsh. What do you have against gibberish. > 😉 I like it. But only from my dates as a sign of being just drunk enough. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/44 "2010-07-24T16:06:51Z")
[QUOTE=lurking guest] Every major Leader on the World Stage is LAUGHING at the poor billions of their fellow human beings who continue to labor and hope and dream that their work and effort will change the lives of their children… BP, Haliburton, Blackhawk, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, The Princes of Saud, the Columbia War Lords… ALL laugh at us. [/quote] The laughing part seems to be a major source of friction. I wouldn’t care about the massive power and being used as a pawn kinda thing if it wasn’t for the laughing, snickering and such. Sneering and giggling are off-putting too. > [@lurking guest](#): > > WHAT SHALL WE DO?? Well, this is the $64 question, isn’t it? They got trillions, massive armies of the night and all the really hot women sewn up, and we’ve got…message boards. All we can do is tighten up our act a little bit, which means coherent paragraphs, NO ALL CAPS and for sure NO SP LIT TING U P WO R DS LI KE LIB ER AL s. If you make our heads hurt we cannot help organize the revolution which is so fervently to be desired. No more fluoridated water - check. Remove amalgam fillings - check. Maintain an alkaline acid-base balance - check. Real paragraphs and complete words - PLEASE!!! ---
**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/45 "2010-07-24T16:11:34Z")
I seriously just think we should put **lurking\_guest** , **adhay** , and **ivan astikov** in a room together and see if they can start a cult, or something. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/46 "2010-07-24T16:16:16Z")
> [@NinetyWt](#): > > Meens? It’s a portmanteau for mustard greens, I think. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/47 "2010-07-24T16:16:30Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > I can’t figure out if the style is more E.E. Cummings or William Carlos Williams. Edgar A. Guest, ripped to the tits on PCP. ---
**Author:** ![Cinebar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Cinebar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinebar)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/48 "2010-07-24T16:21:50Z")
I got as far as “Sarah Palin is right” and my mind just wouldn’t let me read any more. > [@pravnik](#): > > I can’t figure out if the style is more E.E. Cummings or William Carlos Williams. Maybe someone should submit it to: > **[I Write Like](https://iwl.me/)** > > I Write Like is a writer-focused text processor with a suite of tools to analyze and enhance your writing. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/49 "2010-07-24T16:28:55Z")
Here is my condensed version of the OP: Some people have money and power. Many other people don’t. This is a very BAD thing! umkay? Sprinkle in various names of people and organizations and write your own crazy rant! It’s fun, it’s easy, anyone can do it! ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/50 "2010-07-24T17:10:38Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Can I be the arbiter of the Canadian way? You’re gonna have to fight **Valteron** for it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/51 "2010-07-24T17:18:00Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > > > Can I be the arbiter of the Canadian way? > > How would the world have been different if Kal-El had landed in Alberta? On a semi-related note, there was an [imaginary story published in 1967](http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/pre-crisis-reviews/pre-crisis-mmrs-intro.php?topic=c-review-pc-sup200) in which Kal-El’s younger brother, Knor-El, becomes the Superman of Metropolis while Kal-El becomes Hyperman, hero of Montreal. I assume Montreal was chosen, at least in part, because it was in the news for hosting Expo '67. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/52 "2010-07-24T17:20:41Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > Here is my condensed version of the OP: > > Some people have money and power. > > Many other people don’t. > > This is a very BAD thing! umkay? > > Sprinkle in various names of people and organizations and write your own crazy rant! It’s fun, it’s easy, anyone can do it! I think it’s more along the lines of: Some people have money and power. I’m not one of them. WHINE. Suck it up, you pansy. The World Revolution will not be built on a bunch of sissy-marys. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/53 "2010-07-24T17:34:55Z")
> [@lurking\_guest](#): > > OBAMA..the “Great White (0r, not so ‘white’…) Hope” that has proven that his election speeches are nothing more than screed. > > As Sarah Palin has said, “How is that ‘Hopey/Changey ‘Thing’ workin’ for you?” > > Well…(shit) she’s right. > > Hank Paulsen, Ben Bernanke, Timothy Geithner, Alan Greenspan… (GULP…the Bush and Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney ‘takes’ on Gitmo, and Iraq and Israel and Wall Street),…well.. > > These GUYS… > > Are pretty much the f…in’ SAME! > > Hail, Bill Clinton! > > Hail, Reagan! > > Hail, both Bush’s 41 and 43… > > And also OBAMA ~ > > These GUYS… > > The Multi Millionaire and Billionaire folks on this Earth… > > Whether in Saudi Arabia or Columbia or Russia or China ~ > > These fellas ‘know’ one another…they ‘connect’ with one another…they ‘talk’ of the ‘lower classes’ who keep working and working and working and producing… > > Making the steel products and building the buildings and keeping the grass green and keeping the pool clean and raising the children, and cooking the meals, and collecting the trash, and building the cars and buying at the Walgreens and the Wal Marts… > > And being happy that they can play “HALO”… > > While the REALLY RICH FOLKS… tippy toe …across the Globe… hoping against hope that they can STILL KEEP their Millions and Billions (and !even TRILLIONS!),(The OIL, the WARS, the POLITICS, the Governments, the Countries..) > > Oh, how they keep hoping that the ‘lesser indivuals’ on this Earth will keep up their ‘Tribalism’ and fight, and War, and need more money to assault one another… > > Every major Leader on the World Stage is LAUGHING at the poor billions of their fellow human beings who continue to labor and hope and dream that their work and effort will change the lives of their children… > > BP, Haliburton, Blackhawk, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, George Bush, The Princes of Saud, the Columbia War Lords… ALL laugh at us. > > The poor six billion other folks on this planet who do their bidding: > With wars > With governments > With legislation > With geographical boundaries > With hating and pushing ‘Citizens’ to ‘War’ against and hurt one another … > > The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA > > The BIG GUN on this planet. > > YES…GIVE IT UP!! for the innovative folks who can make MILLIONS (and Billions) in the Stock Market…and ‘teach’ other folks in other countries to do the same thing too. > > Because, after all, that is ALL that matters. > > MONEY. > POWER. > INFLUENCE. > BIG SHIPS. > NUCLEAR WARHEADS. > NUCLEAR ARMED SUBS. > > Bigger, better, best …MEENS of keeping the rest of the World ‘in line.’ > > Would China or Russia or South America or India or Pakistan or Iran or Israel trade their place for America’s if they could? Why, of course. > > All the while… the BILLIONS of their citizens keep on living by the “Rules” of their countries. > > WHAT SHALL WE DO?? > > The People of the world have more in common with one another than the privileged “TOP” ten percent of the world. > > No matter the geographical area, the Government, the Economic philosophy or your own Political leanings. > > Now what? Jumpin’ fuckin’ Jebus. Did your mom catch you toking and send you bed? Maybe you should move out of her basement and get a place of your own. Fucking wanker. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/54 "2010-07-24T17:43:16Z")
Do you think this guy might be related to **r.w. jefferson**? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/55 "2010-07-24T17:50:23Z")
Reminds me of Lenin’s _What Is To Be Done?_, except retardo. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/56 "2010-07-24T18:11:13Z")
By the way, I predict that lurking guest will not return to this thread, and will once again drop off the boards for a week or two until he returns to post yet another version of this gibberish in a new thread, in the wrong forum of course, whine for a day or two about how no one appreciates his genius, and then starts the cycle all over again. If you do return, LG, would you care to respond to the question you’ve been asked several times now? Namely, do you admit that you were wrong about needing millions of dollars to be part of the wealthiest 1% of the world? And if you weren’t wrong, how do you explain the citations that were posted in that thread - oh, two or three cycles back? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/57 "2010-07-24T18:21:48Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > If you do return, LG, would you care to respond to the question you’ve been asked several times now? Namely, do you admit that you were wrong about needing millions of dollars to be part of the wealthiest 1% of the world? And if you weren’t wrong, how do you explain the citations that were posted in that thread - oh, two or three cycles back? Have you tried out for the role of Don Quixote in your local theater group? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/58 "2010-07-24T19:06:41Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > Here is my condensed version of the OP: > > Some people have money and power. > > Many other people don’t. > > This is a very BAD thing! umkay? > > Sprinkle in various names of people and organizations and write your own crazy rant! It’s fun, it’s easy, anyone can do it! It’s Mad Libs, then? Okay. I’ll give it a try. Some people have money and power. Paris Hilton, Paris Texas, Paris France - coincidence? NO! Jefferson Davis, Thomas Jefferson, William Jefferson Blythe (then Clinton), all tied to Jefferson Airplane. It’s the hippies fault! HI PPI ES! Many other people don’t. Don’t drink and drive, don’t do drugs, don’t rock the boat baby, baby come back. Songs are the answer to freedom! Don’t let the li ber al hi ppi es take away your freedom with their songs about freedom! This is a very BAD thing! umkay? Bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Do or do not, there is no try. How’s that? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/59 "2010-07-24T19:10:40Z")
Not enough cowbell. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/60 "2010-07-24T19:17:06Z")
I was going for a beatnik snapping fingers kinda vibe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816.md?page=4)