# Give it up LIB ER AL s **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816 "2010-07-24T06:12:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/61 "2010-07-24T19:36:40Z")
Not enough bongo. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/62 "2010-07-24T19:49:13Z")
Arglebargle, or fooferall? Discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/63 "2010-07-24T19:49:33Z")
> [@Cinebar](#): > > > [@pravnik](#): > > > > I can’t figure out if the style is more E.E. Cummings or William Carlos Williams. > > Maybe someone should submit it to: > > [http://iwl.me](http://iwl.me) Wow, [that site uses an _amazing_ algorithm.](http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/268/writelike.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/64 "2010-07-24T20:32:03Z")
[quote=“lurking\_guest, post:17, topic:547816”] > [@Rigamarole](#): > > Answer the substance of my post FIRST - and then trash me, if you must. I would take you seriously…but I’m _pretty_ sure taking you seriously would itself be off-topic for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/65 "2010-07-24T20:33:24Z")
> [@lurking\_guest](#): > > Answer the substance of my post FIRST - and then trash me, if you must. I would take you seriously…but I’m _pretty_ sure taking you seriously would itself be off-topic for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/66 "2010-07-24T20:35:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > “To be hope-y change-y or not to be hope-y change-y, that is the gotcha question.” > > [http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2010/07/20/palin-compares-self-to-shakespeare-after-inventing-word-refudiate.htm](http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2010/07/20/palin-compares-self-to-shakespeare-after-inventing-word-refudiate.htm) Thank you for this link. That is hilarious. “Nay, if you read this line, remember not the hand that writ it; nor the hand that it is writ upon.” - smunch69 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NOLA\_Cajun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@NOLA\_Cajun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NOLA_Cajun)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/67 "2010-07-24T20:50:15Z")
What do we do now? Find a new place in order to form a more perfect union… Oh yeah, that was tried and now there are no new places to go. Fuck it. Kill 'em all. Let God sort 'em out. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/68 "2010-07-24T20:51:31Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > > [@Cinebar](#): > > > > > [@pravnik](#): > > > > > > I can’t figure out if the style is more E.E. Cummings or William Carlos Williams. > > > > Maybe someone should submit it to: > > > > [http://iwl.me](http://iwl.me) > > Wow, [that site uses an _amazing_ algorithm.](http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/268/writelike.jpg) I did submit it, and it comes back as Cory Doctorow. For comparison, I fed it the abstract of my Master’s thesis and it came back as David Foster Wallace. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/69 "2010-07-24T20:53:51Z")
Dead? (Too soon? Always will be, sort of. Miss him.) ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/70 "2010-07-24T21:19:51Z")
> [@lurking\_guest](#): > > Well aren’t you just the arbiter of coherency Yes – strangely enough, _other people_ **are** the arbiters of whether or not you are coherent. Or at least, conventions of usage taught and shared by other people are. Merely insisting that some list of words and partial phrases means something does not make it so. I could just utter random syllables myself and insist that I’d just said the greatest thing ever, and other people would rightly ignore me. ---
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/71 "2010-07-24T21:44:24Z")
I agree. It makes it very hard to follow when…The OP fails to use complete…and then there is the distraction of… ---
**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/72 "2010-07-24T21:56:36Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > > [@lurking\_guest](#): > > > > Well aren’t you just the arbiter of coherency and ‘Teabaggerness’ … > > > > Can’t you THINK? > > We can (well, most of us, at least), however, we don’t think quite the same way you do. The problem is that to you, the words you write are imbued with lots and lots of additional information – meanings, associations, memories etc. --, while to the rest of us, they’re just the bare words. [snip] where you see a cogent argument, we see [this](http://www.timecube.com/). Are we sure that **Lurking Guest** and the creator of that link aren’t the same person? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/73 "2010-07-24T22:19:21Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Have you tried out for the role of Don Quixote in your local theater group? They told me no audition was needed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/74 "2010-07-25T02:29:24Z")
You kidding? These days, you gotta audition for karaoke. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/75 "2010-07-25T03:42:23Z")
If he only does this every couple of weeks or so, and it isn’t because of substance abuse, he might have a mental disorder. Posting the same paranoid, incoherent screed over and over seems to be a pattern of paranoid schizophrenics. I don’t exactly know why there’s a time pattern, but nonetheless, I have observed such. That said, his message is pretty clear to me: Rich people have too much power, and it’s all the LIB ER AL’s fault, for some reason. Probably because the meaning of that word is different than liberals, and refers to the Fox definition: people we hate. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/76 "2010-07-25T03:57:43Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If he only does this every couple of weeks or so, and it isn’t because of substance abuse, he might have a mental disorder. Posting the same paranoid, incoherent screed over and over seems to be a pattern of paranoid schizophrenics. I don’t exactly know why there’s a time pattern, but nonetheless, I have observed such. > > That said, his message is pretty clear to me: Rich people have too much power, and it’s all the LIB ER AL’s fault, for some reason. Probably because the meaning of that word is different than liberals, and refers to the Fox definition: people we hate. Sounds sort of German, doesn’t it? Left wing lib ur alles. OMFG! Hitler!!!1!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/77 "2010-07-25T04:06:51Z")
> [@lurking\_guest](#): > > The People of the world have more in common with one another than the privileged “TOP” ten percent of the world. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the people who post on this board are within the top ten percent of the world in terms of income, including you. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/78 "2010-07-25T04:20:36Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > > [@lurking\_guest](#): > > > > The People of the world have more in common with one another than the privileged “TOP” ten percent of the world. > > I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the people who post on this board are within the top ten percent of the world in terms of income, including you. Yeah I don’t know if [this is a reputable source](http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/7F3AAE93-F41C-4E60-B9E8-D67D7A9D3C0D/) or not but they are citing the World Bank’s figures to say the top 10 percent of the world is anyone who makes over $25,400. Wonder how much the OP makes. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/79 "2010-07-25T05:11:44Z")
All your base are BE LONG to us. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-it-up-lib-er-al-s/547816/80 "2010-07-25T05:19:46Z")
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