# Give me my car!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263 "2006-09-19T03:08:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ethanwinfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@ethanwinfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethanwinfield)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/61 "2006-09-25T02:30:55Z")
[QUOTE=Dr. Drake] I don’t know whether this is practical, but have you considered showing up with a police officer? If they are refusing to deliver goods you have paid for, and refusing to refund the money, isn’t that theft? [/QUOTE] I thought about it. At least then I would have a police report documenting what they are telling me since they refuse to put anything in writing. I don’t want to waste police resources with something like this if I can avoid it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/62 "2006-09-25T02:39:21Z")
Is this dealer unfamiliar with the concept of money? If you arranged a loan for the vehicle through your bank or credit union, then they issued you a check in the full amount for the purchase of the vehicle. As far as the dealer’s concerned, you didn’t buy the car on a loan, you bought it outright. If you default on the loan, the car’s not his; it’s the bank’s. Have you walked down to the local Better Business Bureau yet? ---
**Author:** ![ethanwinfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@ethanwinfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethanwinfield)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/63 "2006-09-25T02:58:41Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] Is this dealer unfamiliar with the concept of money? If you arranged a loan for the vehicle through your bank or credit union, then they issued you a check in the full amount for the purchase of the vehicle. As far as the dealer’s concerned, you didn’t buy the car on a loan, you bought it outright. If you default on the loan, the car’s not his; it’s the bank’s. Have you walked down to the local Better Business Bureau yet? [/QUOTE] I have the paperwork for the DMV. I just need to make copies of my docs and put a stamp on the envelope. The guy asked me today if the finance manager explained that there would be a hold on the check. I told him no, that the first I heard of 10 days was Monday morning on my answering machine _after_ I signed paperwork stating otherwise. He said it was “standard business practice” when they take checks. I said, “If it is your standard business practice, you have it in writing somewhere. Please provide me a copy of it.” Nope. It’s “not in writing.” :dubious: As for the money: I was told that I could be running a huge scam. My letter could be fake. The fax the bank sent could be a fake. And they don’t have a way of proving otherwise. If I call tomorrow, I can speak to the head manager. The only reason I left both the car and the check there in the first place was because it needed the stereo. The stereo was ready Tues night/Wed morning. ---
**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/64 "2006-09-27T20:37:01Z")
Bumping to ask if you have any updates. This is totally insane, and I’m curious about if anything’s resolved yet. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Swan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Swan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Swan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/65 "2006-09-27T23:27:24Z")
[QUOTE=Mishell] Bumping to ask if you have any updates. This is totally insane, and I’m curious about if anything’s resolved yet. [/QUOTE] I second the curiosity. ---
**Author:** ![ethanwinfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@ethanwinfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethanwinfield)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/66 "2006-09-27T23:57:28Z")
[QUOTE=Mishell] Bumping to ask if you have any updates. This is totally insane, and I’m curious about if anything’s resolved yet. [/QUOTE] Yes! The same manager that threatened repeatedly to cancel the contract called yesterday and said, “You can come pick up your car.” He didn’t speak more than 2 words to me (“sign here”) when I picked it up. I still haven’t heard from the owner. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/67 "2006-09-28T00:12:33Z")
[QUOTE=ethanwinfield] As for the money: I was told that I could be running a huge scam. My letter could be fake. The fax the bank sent could be a fake. And they don’t have a way of proving otherwise. If I call tomorrow, I can speak to the head manager. [/QUOTE] My first reaction to that would be: Huh? What? Second reaction: Say to them, “Well, obviously, you guys are quite familiar with scams.” This is not the place to be getting a vehicle, in my humble opinion. It’s certainly a place to be writing down names and business license numbers and then talking to the state government about, again in my humble opinion. ---
**Author:** ![ethanwinfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@ethanwinfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethanwinfield)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/68 "2006-09-28T03:30:05Z")
[QUOTE=Monty] My first reaction to that would be: Huh? What? Second reaction: Say to them, “Well, obviously, you guys are quite familiar with scams.” This is not the place to be getting a vehicle, in my humble opinion. It’s certainly a place to be writing down names and business license numbers and then talking to the state government about, again in my humble opinion. [/QUOTE] There’s a big display board with all of the state issued vehicle saleperson’s licenses displayed. I wrote down the full name and license number of every person I have dealt with. So far I have contacted Scion to file a complaint, as well as the DMV, and the FTC. I’ll be checking my credit every month for the next few months just in case they ran my credit anyway. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/69 "2006-09-29T13:25:46Z")
It’s now the 29th. Did/will they deliver? ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263/70 "2006-09-29T13:27:18Z")
[QUOTE=ethanwinfield] Yes! The same manager that threatened repeatedly to cancel the contract called yesterday and said, “You can come pick up your car.” He didn’t speak more than 2 words to me (“sign here”) when I picked it up. I still haven’t heard from the owner. [/QUOTE] :smack: You got the car… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-my-car/373263.md?page=3)