# Give me your crazy movie theories **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298 "2014-01-08T19:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/21 "2014-01-10T14:20:33Z")
The Federation In Star Trek are the bad guys and all the TV/movies that we see are actually well done pieces of propoganda. Resaerch vessels on voyages of exploration don’t go around armed to the teeth. Luckily, a small group of plucky rebels managed to make a much more realistic account of what’s going on - it’s the creaky 1980’s British TV show Blake’s 7. ---
**Author:** ![el\_nombre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9dc877/32.png) [@el\_nombre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/el_nombre)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/22 "2014-01-10T17:34:36Z")
The ending of Inception is the director performing inception on the audience, just as Cobb had done to his wife, making her doubt reality when in fact it really was reality. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/23 "2014-01-10T22:00:34Z")
Not theories per se, but there are a large number of people that don’t seem to realize that: The virus uploaded in _Independence Day_ is an homage to _War of the Worlds_. AND The aliens in _Signs \* being vulnerable to water is an homage to Day of the Triffids._ \*Not to mention, it’s never definitively said that ALL water hurts the aliens. The water that hurt the aliens had impurities in it. Girl: “The water tastes funny”. Oh, and _Starship Troopers_ is one of the most brilliant pieces of satire evah. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/24 "2014-01-11T00:10:23Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > It’s been a while since I last saw T2, but I don’t think that stands up to the dialog/plot. I’m pretty sure it’s said that Skynet sends the T-2000 after they’d sent the T-800. I’m with **Quimby** on this one - to the extent that I don’t think it counts as a “crazy movie theory.” In the first movie, we see that the Arnold Terminator is basically a stock model. In the second, the T-2000 is explicitly identified as cutting edge technology for SkyNet. Why would the cutting edge model be plan two? And if your trying to eliminate someone from your timeline, wouldn’t your first instinct be to kill \*him \*before he gets dangerous, not his mom? I’m pretty sure that plan A was “Send the best Terminator we have to kill John Connor as a child,” and plan B was “Send a stock model back to kill his mom, just in case.” > [@](#): > > Plus, the remains of the T-800 from the first movie lead directly to creation of SkyNet, and it hurts my brain to think how much it’d have to loop back for your theory to work. 🙂 It doesn’t require any additional loops. In 20XX, SkyNet sends one Terminator back to 1991, and a second Terminator back to 1984. The one in 1984 forms the basis of the tech that’s eventually used to build SkyNet. The fact that he was the second Terminator sent through the time machine doesn’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/25 "2014-01-11T01:01:13Z")
Miller, your thought process was exactly my thought process when I came up with the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/26 "2014-01-11T01:03:06Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > I like the one on _Cracked_ that James Bond is not a person but a title . . . There was a recent comic book riff on this, where Hawkeye and Nick Fury (!) were discussing this idea. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/27 "2014-01-11T01:16:46Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Resaerch vessels on voyages of exploration don’t go around armed to the teeth. From Wikipedia: HMS Beagle was a Cherokee-class 10-gun brig-sloop of the Royal Navy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/28 "2014-01-11T03:56:40Z")
> [@Greg\_Charles](#): > > From Wikipedia: > HMS Beagle was a Cherokee-class 10-gun brig-sloop of the Royal Navy. > 🙂 And its mission was a military one: to map the waters around South America in order to make charts for use by the Royal Navy in future operations. Charles Darwin was just along for the ride (and to keep the Captain company). Still, it does not sem unreasonable that researchers heading into unknown, potentially hostile territory should be well armed. I am sure Lewis and Clark were, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/29 "2014-01-11T10:09:38Z")
In Disney/Pixar _Cars_, the mummified remains of the humans are still inside the cars - trapped their when the cars became sentient and the windows all turned opaque. ---
**Author:** ![randompattern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@randompattern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randompattern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/30 "2014-01-11T11:41:07Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > The trouble with the Bond as codename theory is that there have been many references to past events making it clear that this is the same person.For example, the references to the death of his wife in TSWLM and LTK. > > I prefer to think of him as a closet Timelord, with the ability to grow a new body if one is too severely injured. Maybe just for backstory cover? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/31 "2014-01-11T11:55:12Z")
Does it count if the crazy theory turns out to be verified later by the movie creator? Because if so then, “Deckard is a replicant.” It was a pretty wild idea when _Blade Runner_ was first released. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/32 "2014-01-11T13:02:52Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > The Federation In Star Trek are the bad guys and all the TV/movies that we see are actually well done pieces of propoganda. Resaerch vessels on voyages of exploration don’t go around armed to the teeth. > > Luckily, a small group of plucky rebels managed to make a much more realistic account of what’s going on - it’s the creaky 1980’s British TV show Blake’s 7. You misspelled _Firefly_. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/33 "2014-01-11T13:28:04Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Does it count if the crazy theory turns out to be verified later by the movie creator? > Because if so then, “Deckard is a replicant.” It was a pretty wild idea when _Blade Runner_ was first released. Isn’t Ridley Scott the only person connected to the movie who promotes the replicant theory? But just like the “the whole planet is dead so the original ending is stupid!” is stupid, so is the replicant theory. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/34 "2014-01-11T13:29:03Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > In Disney/Pixar _Cars_, the mummified remains of the humans are still inside the cars - trapped their when the cars became sentient and the windows all turned opaque. “Not feeling too good McQueen? Welllll…let me take a look under the hood. Just roll down your window there. (Mummified human lolls out of window) Yup. Just as I suspected. Your human has dessicated so much that your AC unit was getting clogged. We’ll get you fixed up in a jiffy bud.” ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/35 "2014-01-12T15:47:22Z")
Anyway—the drastic change in tone of the last two of the original four Batman movies can, in fact, be reconciled with the darker, more serious tone of the first two. How? Gotham City got that way because _Batman fixed it._ Because of his presence, all or most of the _sane_ criminals have either skipped town or gone straight; most of the ones who’re left are the kind of wackos who think it’s a great idea to hang around putting on face paint under blacklights, and increasingly isolated and unorganized low level criminals. Crime is kept so in check—and mostly to the domain of harmless bumblers and weirdos—that the city has experienced a massive economic and cultural boom, and the streets are safe enough that the Dark Knight can openly attend charity auctions in front of the press. The movies didn’t get stupid—they’re a _realistic_ depiction of an urban society becoming ridiculously decadent after the removal of a hitherto intractable societal bane. I…can’t really explain the silly sound effects, or why someone thought it would be a good idea to build freeways through the middle of the city perched on the shoulders of 80-storey tall statues. Maybe the latter was a make-work project, or something…someone [ask Joel.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow2SVDpd8YA) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/36 "2014-01-12T17:01:17Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > In Disney/Pixar _Cars_, the mummified remains of the humans are still inside the cars - trapped their when the cars became sentient and the windows all turned opaque. I’ve also posted my theory on this movie. The world of _Cars_ used to have people and other lifeforms. But all life on Earth was killed in the great plague. Humanity had already developed complex AI systems to work for them but these AIs now felt no sense of purpose. They had been designed to support human society and that no longer existed. The AIs were intelligent but they lacked the creative spark that humanity had had - they couldn’t simply invent a new model of society based around robots. So they reprogrammed themselves to delete all memories of life. And they now mimic a human society without remembering humanity itself. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/37 "2014-01-12T17:06:42Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > I like the one on _Cracked_ that James Bond is not a person but a title and that accounts for his varying appearance and non-aging over these many years. Wasn’t this the basic premise behind the original _ **Casino Royale** _? (Except there it was a code name instead of a title.) :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/38 "2014-01-12T17:08:15Z")
In 12 Monkeys no time travel takes place, Cole is a NUT in a mental hospital/prison in a bleak post apoc future. He hallucinates a fantasy of traveling back to the pinnacle of human civilization he remembers as a boy, in between therapy sessions and forced work detail on the surface. He becomes a hero time traveling to save humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/39 "2014-01-12T17:20:38Z")
Since Cars has been coming up, there is this, pretty famous at this point, [theory](http://www.pixartheory.com/) that all Pixar movies to date take place in the same universe. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/40 "2014-01-12T19:27:59Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Anyway—the drastic change in tone of the last two of the original four Batman movies can, in fact, be reconciled with the darker, more serious tone of the first two. I’ve seen a similar explanation for the entire Silver Age of DC comics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298.md?page=3)