# Give me your crazy movie theories

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 8, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298 "2014-01-08T19:05:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/41 "2014-01-12T21:31:17Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’ve also posted my theory on this movie. The world of _Cars_ used to have people and other lifeforms. But all life on Earth was killed in the great plague.
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> Humanity had already developed complex AI systems to work for them but these AIs now felt no sense of purpose. They had been designed to support human society and that no longer existed. The AIs were intelligent but they lacked the creative spark that humanity had had - they couldn’t simply invent a new model of society based around robots.
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> So they reprogrammed themselves to delete all memories of life. And they now mimic a human society without remembering humanity itself.

Well they couldn’t have deleted ALL memory, because there are cars that think they are famous people, like Bob Costas. I like the idea that a dead Bob Costas is that cars brain.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/42 "2014-01-12T21:48:11Z")

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Not really a movie, but I’m pretty sure Kate Winslet is actually in love with me.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/43 "2014-01-12T23:21:27Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> Does it count if the crazy theory turns out to be verified later by the movie creator?  
> Because if so then, “Deckard is a replicant.” It was a pretty wild idea when _Blade Runner_ was first released.

But not when the book came out years before, where it was specifically mentioned (and proven false\*).

The movie doesn’t have to follow the book, but the trope of a robot believing he’s real had been a part of science fiction for years before the movie: Bary Longyear’s **Science Fiction Writer’s Workshop I: A Guide to Fiction Mechanics** , published two years before the movie, called the idea a cliche best to be avoided.

\*I always thought Dick missed a chance here.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/44 "2014-01-13T00:04:18Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I have my own Terminator Theory. Terminator 2 was actually Skynet’s Plan A to get rid of John Conner. The Terminator in the original movie was Plan B but we see it first because it happens first chronologically.
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> So basically Skynet sends its advanced prototype to kill John himself and at the same time or shortly after sends a T-800 to kill his Mom further back in the past, just in case the first one fails (yes verb tense is weird when you talk about Time Travel). The human resistance sends back a captured T-800 after the prototype (knowing a human would stand no chance against it) and then Reese after the T-800 before destroying the Time Travel equipment.

I like that idea. It’s genius dude.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/45 "2014-01-13T00:12:03Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> But not when the book came out years before, where it was specifically mentioned (and proven false\*).
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> The movie doesn’t have to follow the book, but the trope of a robot believing he’s real had been a part of science fiction for years before the movie: Bary Longyear’s **Science Fiction Writer’s Workshop I: A Guide to Fiction Mechanics** , published two years before the movie, called the idea a cliche best to be avoided.
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> \*I always thought Dick missed a chance here.

When the idea was first broached, I shoved it into the realm of “Fan disbelief”. I don’t care if it’s true or not. I think it’s dumb and I won’t acknowledge it.

But now I kind of like the idea. So the real question is, at the end does Deckard KNOW he’s a replicant? _We_ can out together the clues, but does he?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/46 "2014-01-13T00:25:18Z")

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Speaking of James Bond … this isn’t my idea, obviously, and I’m pretty sure it’s been mentioned here elsewhere, but …

… the character of Mason in _The Rock_ is actually James Bond, as in Sean Connery’s Bond. Imprisoned by the States for whatever reason and completely disavowed by the British government – as you do when an agent goes rogue.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/47 "2014-01-13T00:27:39Z")

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Neo never left the Matrix.

Morpheus, Trinity, Zion, it’s all a “rat maze” to get The One to re-enter the Source (or whatever the techy mumbo-jumbo stuff was).

When Neo finally gets to The Architect, and is given his Choice (“door-to-the-left/door-to-the-right”), it didn’t matter which way he went; it all led to the Source.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/48 "2014-01-13T01:08:14Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Speaking of James Bond … this isn’t my idea, obviously, and I’m pretty sure it’s been mentioned here elsewhere, but …
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> … the character of Mason in _The Rock_ is actually James Bond, as in Sean Connery’s Bond. Imprisoned by the States for whatever reason and completely disavowed by the British government – as you do when an agent goes rogue.

On a similar note, I like a theory posted posited by someone that Jules from Pulp Fiction was actually Nick Fury undercover to get ahold of the Tesseract, which was the glowing thing in the box that is never actually shown. His goal was to get ahold of it and then just disappear back to SHEILD wish is why he told Vincent that story at the end about how he was going to get out of the game.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/49 "2014-01-13T01:13:05Z")

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Another one from Cracked.

Ferris Bueller’s Day Off takes place almost entirely in Cameron’s head. There is no Ferris Bueller. He is a fantasy made up by Cameron. Basically Ferris is what a lonely introverted depressed teen might think popular people are like: Doors open for them, everyone loves them, or at least thinks about them a lot, and they coast through life without too much effort. Cameron did skip scholl that day, but did nothing more but lie around and fantasize. Sloan probably does exist, but she’s just some girl Cameron dreams about but has said less than six words too.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/50 "2014-01-13T01:18:27Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> I like that idea. It’s genius dude.

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/51 "2014-01-13T05:57:04Z")

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Only partly related to movies but, I know “The Green Mile”…the term itself…is a metaphor for life. (You walk a ‘green mile’ before you die)

But I wonder if “The Long Walk” is also the same. A long walk where you try and outlive your friends.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/52 "2014-01-13T06:02:49Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Only partly related to movies but, I know “The Green Mile”…the term itself…is a metaphor for life. (You walk a ‘green mile’ before you die)

The phrase “The Green Mile” was coined by Stephen King for book. It has no other meaning other than that the floor in the prison was painted green.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/53 "2014-01-13T06:29:39Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The phrase “The Green Mile” was coined by Stephen King for book. It has no other meaning other than that the floor in the prison was painted green.

From the book:

“We each owe a death — there are no exceptions. But, oh God, sometimes the Green Mile seems so long.”

“I think about all of us. Walking our own Green Mile, each in our own time.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Accident](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Mr.Accident](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Accident)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/54 "2014-01-13T14:13:28Z")

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I’ve always been partial to the idea that the events in Cabin in the Woods is the real reason characters in horror movies always make such bone headed decisions.

In the Scream movies, it was always my belief that Randy is the real mastermind behind all of the killings. He’s really a psycho who wants to experience a horror movie in real life, so he convinces the actual killers to go on their rampages. It started getting difficult for him to keep a straight face partway through 2, so he faked his own death. After all, we didn’t actually see him get killed, or see a body, just him getting dragged into a van, the van rocks, then there is blood splatters. This also explains why he appears older in the video his sister shows Sydney in Scream 3.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/55 "2014-01-13T16:42:37Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> From the book:
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> “We each owe a death — there are no exceptions. But, oh God, sometimes the Green Mile seems so long.”
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> “I think about all of us. Walking our own Green Mile, each in our own time.”

Both of those quotes are referring to the prison.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/56 "2014-01-13T17:02:56Z")

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Here was one of my theories … from a different thread (re: _The Warriors_):

> [@Movies you wish had a sequel (but didn't)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-you-wish-had-a-sequel-but-didnt/642554/20):
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> I always wondered if Swan really did just take off, or if stuck around Coney and led the boys in more bops.
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> Of course, I like to image the actors in other roles are playing out the sequel. So in my world, Swan went on to be a roller-skating pussy who fell in love with Olivia Newton-John, and after Ajax (real name: Ganz) got out of juvi, he moved to San Francisco to fuck with Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/57 "2014-01-13T19:51:21Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Another one from Cracked.
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> Ferris Bueller’s Day Off takes place almost entirely in Cameron’s head. There is no Ferris Bueller. He is a fantasy made up by Cameron. Basically Ferris is what a lonely introverted depressed teen might think popular people are like: Doors open for them, everyone loves them, or at least thinks about them a lot, and they coast through life without too much effort. Cameron did skip scholl that day, but did nothing more but lie around and fantasize. Sloan probably does exist, but she’s just some girl Cameron dreams about but has said less than six words too.

I’ve heard it theorized (maybe on Cracked) that Ferris is Cameron’s Tyler Durden. So some of Ferris’s actions are just imagined by Cameron, and some Ferris’s actions are things that actually Cameron does. I’m guessing this doesn’t hold up on a rewatch, but I thought that was interesting.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/58 "2014-01-13T21:59:08Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> “I think about all of us. Walking our own Green Mile, each in our own time.”

It’s obviously the case King uses “green mile” as a metaphor for the length of one’s life, but that is not exactly a crazy theory, it’s rather plainly stated in the text of the book.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/59 "2014-01-13T22:23:42Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s obviously the case King uses “green mile” as a metaphor for the length of one’s life, but that is not exactly a crazy theory, it’s rather plainly stated in the text of the book.

The crazy theory is that “The Long Walk” refers to life. I just used “The Green Mile” as an example of him also using it.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-crazy-movie-theories/678298/60 "2014-01-13T22:38:25Z")

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I am firmly convinced Jerry, Elaine, Kramer, and George died in a plane crash at the end of Seinfeld, and the trial and their sitting in a prison cell talking about nothing is their afterlife. And I think it is BRILLIANT, and richly deserved, if not worse - but as they were not actively malevolant, just self-centered - OK, spend eternity (purgatory?) together in that cell :p.

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