# Give me your NCAA D1 football playoff system **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 11, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203 "2012-01-11T20:10:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![davidw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@davidw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidw)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/41 "2012-01-13T00:57:07Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Lets go with the assumption that these kids are not getting paid for playing football. And most of them are not. (in case of 16 team playoff), the winners have got to practice and prepare for 4 more games. More chance of injury. > > You going to force these kids (not getting paid) to play in Madison, WS or East Lansing Mi. In December, in January. You going to have people pay $200 or more ticket to sit in sub freezing temperatures (most likely at night). This already happens in Division I, Division II and Division III (though I doubt people are paying $200 or more for a ticket). ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/42 "2012-01-13T01:18:16Z")
> [@davidw](#): > > This already happens in Division I, Division II and Division III (though I doubt people are paying $200 or more for a ticket). Those playoffs begin earlier in the year than the FBS playoff would begin. And what attendance do they get? 20K max? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/43 "2012-01-13T01:25:35Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > The problem is that mid-majors are held to different rules than the big schools and even among the big schools the criteria changes. Let’s look at Boise St., OSU and Alabama. > > A lot of people justify Alabama being ahead of OSU on the basis that losing by a field goal to a #1 undefeated team beats out losing to a woeful Iowa St. AND that the loss outweighs OSU’s tougher SOS. > > Boise State loses on a field goal that literally missed by inches. And that was against a TCU team that has been pretty good the last couple of years and finished #18 in the nation. The OSU kicker shanks a kick. It wasn’t even close and again, OSU lost to ISU. Now if we use the same criteria that is used to justify Alabama being ranked higher than OSU, then why is Boise St ranked below OSU. > > That’s why I think that the +1 needs to be expanded to an 8 team playoff. Because I guaranty the top 4 teams will always be a part of the old boys network in college football. Actually, the OSU kick at the end of regulation to win passed over the upright, which isn’t good in CFB. Not shanked at all. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/44 "2012-01-13T08:36:38Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > There is also some issues that is worth mentioning (or mentioning again) > > Lets go with the assumption that these kids are not getting paid for playing football. And most of them are not. (in case of 16 team playoff), the winners have got to practice and prepare for 4 more games. More chance of injury. > > You going to force these kids (not getting paid) to play in Madison, WS or East Lansing Mi. In December, in January. You going to have people pay $200 or more ticket to sit in sub freezing temperatures (most likely at night). Possible blizzard conditions? > > All warm weather or domes sites? Supporters got to travel to see their team play. for 4 straight weeks? Even the NCAA B-Ball is only for three weeks. An 8-team playoff is 7 games. The last regular season games are played the last week in November and the first week in December. Drop the 1AA cupcake and scale back to an 11 game schedule. The first round of the playoffs will be locally hosted during what is now the last week of the regular season. The semi-finals and championship will be hosted by what are now BCS bowls (Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, and Rose). Fans have to travel to see their teams play in those bowls anyway, and pay money. Teams won’t play games in cold weather beyond what is now the regular season and, presumably, the teams that qualify for an 8-team playoff would be playing in the BCS bowls without a playoff. Nothing changes. [QUOTE=notfrommensa] I like the two team playoff (and it is a playoff despite what anyone wants to say). [/QUOTE] Insignificant semantics. Call the championship whateverthefuck, the central argument is that too few teams participate. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/45 "2012-01-13T14:40:00Z")
A problem with going back to an 11 game schedule and dropping the FCS schools is that many of those schools have now become quite dependent on the money that brings “auto” loss brings. I read a few weeks back that pretty much every team that goes to the quarters and beyond in the FCS loses money by being in the playoffs. Take away that $500k payday a team like Montana State picks up for playing Nebraska, and MSU has just lost a huge portion of its revenue. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/46 "2012-01-13T18:59:04Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > An 8-team playoff is 7 games. The last regular season games are played the last week in November and the first week in December. Drop the 1AA cupcake and scale back to an 11 game schedule. If you’re saying this in the “what I’d do if I was king of the world” mode, fine. But there is zero point zero percent chance of that happening. There’s ~90 programs that have only minimal chance of getting into the BCS bowls, but that do make a nice chunk of change on that extra home game. Mississippi State, Northwestern, Rutgers, etc. are not going to give up the half-million dollars they can make on an an extra home game so that Texas and USC get a bigger payday. Even if every penny of BCS revenue was shared (which Texas and USC wouldn’t allow), the payout to the average school would be much less than a home game. I’m not crazy about the 12th game, but it’s not going away. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/47 "2012-01-13T19:19:58Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The problem is, by nature, most people want to know who the best of everything is. > … Sure, but you miss the point. _Forced to choose_, which we probably are, most passionate college football fans – not people who watch a couple games a year, but the people who tailgate, who travel to the bowl games, who really care – would rather keep their rivalries and traditions intact instead of having some big tournament that gives some supposedly definitive answer. Forced to choose, I’d bet most Alabama fans would prefer a thrashing of Auburn and an SEC title to a national championship; ditto for all the major rivalries. Army fans would regard an 1-11 season with a win over Navy as at least an even proposition. Hell, my team’s (UCF) “rivalry” barely pings the meter, but I’d rather have a win over USF than a bowl win or a conference championship or a top-20 ranking. The people who are most in favor of a national championship are the media and casual fans not closely attached to any one team or even the sport in general. Most serious college football fans aren’t necessarily opposed to an improved NC system, _so long as it doesn’t interfere with the things that make the sport great and unique, e.g. the local rivalries and the bowl games._ A 8 or 16 team playoff does that. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/48 "2012-01-13T21:16:27Z")
> [@mkecane](#): > > A problem with going back to an 11 game schedule and dropping the FCS schools is that many of those schools have now become quite dependent on the money that brings “auto” loss brings. I read a few weeks back that pretty much every team that goes to the quarters and beyond in the FCS loses money by being in the playoffs. Take away that $500k payday a team like Montana State picks up for playing Nebraska, and MSU has just lost a huge portion of its revenue. [QUOTE=furt] If you’re saying this in the “what I’d do if I was king of the world” mode, fine. But there is zero point zero percent chance of that happening. There’s ~90 programs that have only minimal chance of getting into the BCS bowls, but that do make a nice chunk of change on that extra home game. Mississippi State, Northwestern, Rutgers, etc. are not going to give up the half-million dollars they can make on an an extra home game so that Texas and USC get a bigger payday. Even if every penny of BCS revenue was shared (which Texas and USC wouldn’t allow), the payout to the average school would be much less than a home game. I’m not crazy about the 12th game, but it’s not going away. [/QUOTE] Right, it’s not going to happen for those reasons, but I was responding to **notfrommensa** ’s “It’s not going to happen because of too many games and cold weather” argument. Even if you keep the 12th game, the first round of an 8-team playoff would be the second week in December, only a week later than they’re playing games in cold weather now. That’s not stretching the cold weather risk too much. And the last two rounds (semi-final and championship) can be played in the current BCS bowls, as mentioned above. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/49 "2012-01-14T14:45:41Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > Actually, the OSU kick at the end of regulation to win passed over the upright, which isn’t good in CFB. Not shanked at all. Yes, this is right. Also, enough of this meme about Iowa State being ‘woeful.’ Mediocre, sure, but it’s not like Okie State lost to Southeast Kentucky Community College or something. The Cyclones beat Iowa and Connecticut (who went to a BCS bowl the season before), went on the road to blow out a 5-2 Texas Tech team that had just upset Oklahoma, and played Kansas State and Oklahoma pretty darn close, again on the road. Yes, sure, mediocre - but the idea that OSU lost this unforgivable game to a bunch of incompetents was cooked up mostly by SEC homers to pump up Alabama’s position. Which is funny when you see how many fans Iowa State made in Tuscaloosa that Friday night in November. 🆒 Lots of good stuff in this thread. I agree with the comments about tradition, rivalries, and conference matchups meaning more to hardcore fans of individual schools, with this playoff/national championship issue being a bigger deal to ESPN/overall college football fans. A plus-one would work plenty good, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/50 "2012-01-14T16:42:21Z")
1. The bows aren’t going away, so any system that simply eliminates them is a fantasy 2. The conferences aren’t going away… (see above) 3. The problem with our current system is that there is often a team getting shafted (ie. an undefeated Auburn in 2004 (IIRC)) 4. There are rarely 5 teams that can legitimately say “We believe that we are the best team in college football, and we think we have proved it on the field, and we deserve a shot at the NC” 5. The bigger the playoff field, the less that the regular season means. 6. Therefore, the proper size (ie power of 2) of the playoff system is 4. (I could be talked into 8, but any more is completely unnecessary) The first 3 are undisputed facts. The next 2 are my opinion, and the last is the logical conclusion. I think that the best system that has a chance of happening is that we go back to the original bowl system with all of the games ending by Jan 1, then have another vote and the top 2 teams play the NCG at the site of one of the 4 (or 3 or 5) major bowl games on a rotating basis. I think that there should be some guidelines, but these would take some ironing out. For example, the #1 BCS team in the end-of-regular-season poll should play a team ranked in the top 4, but not the #2 team. The #2 team should play a team in the top 6. The #3 should play a team in the top 8, and #4 should play a team in the top 10. I’ll give a 2-slot extension for “traditional matchups”, so if Ohio State is #1, then the top PAC-12 team better be at 6 or higher, or the Pac-12 isn’t going to be in the Rose Bowl. This is to give room to make the traditional matchups while still making a system that clears a lot of things up. This year, the Sugar Bowl would have had LSU playing OkSt or Stanford, while Alabama most likely would have played the other in the Fiesta Bowl. > [@Carmady](#): > > … > > 2008 is a particularly egregious example. USC and Utah should have been in the playoff, but the actual top 4 was Florida, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, giving us 2 pairs of teams that had already played. Note that Utah absolutely massacred Alabama that year. > … With my system, Utah would have played in the NCG after they beat Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/51 "2012-01-14T17:43:35Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > The system itself is based on an obsession with two mutually exclusive scenarios: a system of conferences and local rivalries, on the one hand, and a national championship, on the other. If you want the former, you’ll never arrive at a good way of achieving the latter, and if you want a viable version of the latter, you need to abandon the former. I think I disagree with you here (though I may be misunderstanding). We already have the BCS. I think it is very possible to come up with a new system that is better in _both_ areas. This year provided an obvious example. LSU vs Alabama in the regular season didn’t mean as much because people were already talking about the possibility of a rematch. The SEC championship hardly meant anything, because LSU would have been in the NC regardless and just didn’t want any injuries. Going back a little, you had Texas beat Oklahoma in the regular season, Texas and Oklahoma being the top 2 teams in the Big 12 by the rankings, but Oklahoma going to the NC instead of Texas. My point is, you are a little late to worry about this kind of thing. It’s already here. A new system could be designed to not only vastly improve the postseason, but to improve the regular season as well. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/52 "2012-02-09T15:33:26Z")
> [@Rucksinator](#): > > 1. The bows aren’t going away, so any system that simply eliminates them is a fantasy > 2. The conferences aren’t going away… (see above) > 3. The problem with our current system is that there is often a team getting shafted (ie. an undefeated Auburn in 2004 (IIRC)) > 4. There are rarely 5 teams that can legitimately say “We believe that we are the best team in college football, and we think we have proved it on the field, and we deserve a shot at the NC” > 5. The bigger the playoff field, the less that the regular season means. > 6. Therefore, the proper size (ie power of 2) of the playoff system is 4. (I could be talked into 8, but any more is completely unnecessary) 1. No one said to get rid of the bowls but we need to stop pretending that the Peach Bowl or Poulan Weedeater Bowl mean anything other than to the two teams that made it in. 2. Who was talking about getting rid of conferences? 3. Right so how to fix it? 4. Correct except that he four team that earn a shot may be ranked 1, 2, 3 and 6. 5. So the NCAA Basketball Tournament (aka March Madness), NFL playoffs, etc. are all meaningless? I am so tired of this argument because it invalidates any playoff in any sport, it completely dismisses the problem that undefeated teams don’t win championships and this year alone shows how meaningless the regular season is when the Championship game is a rematch and the only justification for Alabama being in is they were the (questionably) best of the also-rans. 6. 8 definately as long as we’re going by a ranking system. Most years I’m sure we could find team ranked 5-8 that for one reason or another deserve a shot at the NC. It could be a star player that was out for a game or two or a team that missed being undefeated by a foot or a bad call. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/53 "2012-02-10T03:30:08Z")
First I would realign the conferences as follows Big East BC UConn Syracuse Rutgers Pitt Penn St Villanova Georgetown Temple Army Navy Buffalo ACC Maryland West Virginia Marshall UVa Va Tech UNC Duke Wake NC St ECU WCU SEC South Caolina Clemson Georgia Georgia Tech Florida FSU Miami-FL UCF USF Alabama Auburn Ole Miss Miss St LSU Tulane Arkansas Tennesssee Memphis Louisville Kentucky Sun Belt WKU EKU MTSU Troy FIU FAU Ark St ULL ULM MAC Akron CMU EMU WMU Northern IL Ball St Ohio Miami-OH Kent St BGSU Big 10 Michigan Michigan St Ohio St Cincinnati Indiana Purdue Notre Dame Illinois Northwestern Iowa Iowa St Wisconsin Minnesota Missouri Big 12 Texas Teas A&m Texas Tech SMU TCU SMU Rice Baylor UTEP Oklahoma Oklahoma St Kansas Kansas St Tulsa MWC Colorado Colorado St Utah Utah St BYU Air Force Wyoming Arizona Arizona St New Mexico New Mexico St Pac-10 Washington Washington St Oregon Oregon St Idaho Boise St UNLV Nevada Cal USC UCLA Stanford Freson St San Jose St San Diego St Hawaii I’d have the 9 Conference champs play a single elimination tourney (8 would play 9 st) on home-fields or conference title sites. ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/54 "2012-02-10T04:03:47Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > 1. No one said to get rid of the bowls but we need to stop pretending that the Peach Bowl or Poulan Weedeater Bowl mean anything other than to the two teams that made it in. > > 2. Who was talking about getting rid of conferences? > > 3. Right so how to fix it? > > 4. Correct except that he four team that earn a shot may be ranked 1, 2, 3 and 6. > > 5. So the NCAA Basketball Tournament (aka March Madness), NFL playoffs, etc. are all meaningless? I am so tired of this argument because it invalidates any playoff in any sport, it completely dismisses the problem that undefeated teams don’t win championships and this year alone shows how meaningless the regular season is when the Championship game is a rematch and the only justification for Alabama being in is they were the (questionably) best of the also-rans. > > 6. 8 definately as long as we’re going by a ranking system. Most years I’m sure we could find team ranked 5-8 that for one reason or another deserve a shot at the NC. It could be a star player that was out for a game or two or a team that missed being undefeated by a foot or a bad call. 1. Someone upthread posited this as part of their fantasy. (On preview, I see that someone has illustrated this for me.) My point is that unrealistic fantasies aren’t worth discussing. 2. By the plan that I outlined. 🙂 3. Yeah. In my plan, it could actually happen that #1 plays #5, #2 plays #6, #3 plays #7, and #4 plays #8. While this would leave the pollsters with a lot to think about, it would give the #8 team a chance to make it to the NCG. 4. I’m not saying that they are meaningless, but that the larger these tournaments are, the less important the regular season becomes. EG: The NY Giants are this years Superbowl champions; they won the championship fair and square according to the rules of the NFL. I just don’t think that it should ever happen that the college NFC should be a team with 7 losses. If you can win the NCG with a slightly-better-than-even record, then what’s the point of the regular season? 5. It’s late and I’m responding to stuff that I wrote several weeks ago, so for now I’m just going to challenge you to name some teams that were ranked 5-8 in the last few years that deserved a shot at the NCG. (I already pointed out that 2008 Utah would have played for the NC under my system). ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/55 "2012-02-10T04:13:10Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > 1. No one said to get rid of the bowls but we need to stop pretending that the Peach Bowl or Poulan Weedeater Bowl mean anything other than to the two teams that made it in… I skipped this one. I wasn’t actually thinking about these minor bowls, I was really thinking about the Rose Bowl. The Pac-12, The Big Ten, and The Rose Bowl (AKA “the evil triumverate”) wield a lot of power. Any playoff system that these 3 are opposed to is not likely to pass. If I were supreme commander of this world I would say “FU” to those 3; but I’m not. They have to be convinced to come along with any system that is proposed. (Recent reports indicate that their hand may have been forced, and that they are now open to a “plus-one” system that involves playoff games in their own (arctic) turfs.) ETA: etv78 has a lovely plan. And we can look forward to this being implemented just as soon as etv78 gets named Supreme Commander of the Universe. Until then… ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/56 "2012-02-11T07:09:40Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > First I would realign the conferences as follows > > Big East > BC > UConn > Syracuse > Rutgers > Pitt > Penn St > Villanova > Georgetown > Temple > Army > Navy > Buffalo > > ACC > Maryland > West Virginia > Marshall > UVa > Va Tech > UNC > Duke > Wake > NC St > ECU > WCU > > SEC > South Caolina > Clemson > Georgia > Georgia Tech > Florida > FSU > Miami-FL > UCF > USF > Alabama > Auburn > Ole Miss > Miss St > LSU > Tulane > Arkansas > Tennesssee > Memphis > Louisville > Kentucky > > Sun Belt > WKU > EKU > MTSU > Troy > FIU > FAU > Ark St > ULL > ULM > > MAC > Akron > CMU > EMU > WMU > Northern IL > Ball St > Ohio > Miami-OH > Kent St > BGSU > Big 10 > Michigan > Michigan St > Ohio St > Cincinnati > Indiana > Purdue > Notre Dame > Illinois > Northwestern > Iowa > Iowa St > Wisconsin > Minnesota > Missouri > > Big 12 > Texas > Teas A&M > Texas Tech > Nebraska > TCU > SMU > Rice > Baylor > UTEP > Oklahoma > Oklahoma St > Kansas > Kansas St > Tulsa > > MWC > Colorado > Colorado St > Utah > Utah St > BYU > Air Force > Wyoming > Arizona > Arizona St > New Mexico > New Mexico St > > Pac-10 > Washington > Washington St > Oregon > Oregon St > Idaho > Boise St > UNLV > Nevada > Cal > USC > UCLA > Stanford > Freson St > San Jose St > San Diego St > Hawaii > > I’d have the 9 Conference champs play a single elimination tourney (8 would play 9 st) on home-fields or conference title sites. fixed it ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203/57 "2012-02-11T07:41:13Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > fixed it add Houston to the Big 12 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-me-your-ncaa-d1-football-playoff-system/609203.md?page=2)