# Give your opinion on something (mom wants to pass out "church cards" at Halloween) \[update\]

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 18, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908 "2016-10-18T01:19:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/21 "2016-10-18T04:01:24Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> because no one was going to bung us in the car

I would say that is a net positive.

I grew up in a smallerish town, I think they might be up to 20,000 people now, and got all kinds of “Halloween is for The Satan!!!” literature. Us kids just crumbled it up and threw it in the bushes as soon as we left that house.

So I say it’s no harm no foul except for the butt-hurt parents of some special snowflake.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/22 "2016-10-18T04:08:46Z")

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Missed the Edit window because I had to pee and the cat got all cute so I had to pet him for a bit.  
“So I say it’s no harm no foul except for the butt-hurt parents of some special snowflake.”

And they definitely deserve to be butt-hurted because fuck those people who think the world needs to cater to them. Look fuck-nugget you are 1 of 7,000,000,000. You aren’t fucking special. You are just one lucky jizz from yo daddy into yo mommy. You were an accident.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/23 "2016-10-18T09:36:02Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> It’s inappropriate, because it is taking advantage of the access Halloween provides to foist something off onto minors that should be channelled through parents.
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> That said, it’s relatively harmless and if she’s hell-bent (heh) on doing it, there probably won’t be any consequences beyond a mildly annoyed parent or two.

If she were handing the cards out specifically to the parents accompanying their childeren, that would have much more of a pick-on-someone-your-own-size vibe.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/24 "2016-10-18T14:22:29Z")

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I see no problem with that so long as she also gives out candy.

Kids these days could do with a bit of church! (If you ask me or at least spending some time in a clean family oriented environment with good people around.)

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/25 "2016-10-18T14:35:50Z")

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If the cards were a “you’re all going to hell you pagans!” kind of thing then I would say no.

But since all it’s doing is advertising a free movie (with treats!) that’s at the church, and you’re giving out candy too, I don’t see a problem with it at all.

Hell, you might actually see some people come to the movie because it’s a free night out!

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/26 "2016-10-18T14:40:38Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> It probably will piss someone off. But having to toss a little card into the trash cash is small price to pay for free candy.

Trash? The cards won’t make it to the end of the front walk. These kind of cards fall into the same category as apples and popcorn balls.  
If they do make it home they’ll be segregated to their own little Halloween purgatory…just waiting for the first load of candy wrappers to head for the trash.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/27 "2016-10-18T14:41:58Z")

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Eh, IF they’re just “free movie night at the church!” cards, no “with free handbasket and trip to hell you fucking sinners”. And IF she is also handing out candy. I think it’s totally fine.

Otherwise, definitely no. If my child received one I certainly wouldn’t be going to movie night, but I wouldn’t be offended.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/28 "2016-10-18T14:53:42Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> so mom is planning on doing that…although that’s not all she’s going to be handing out, she’s going to be **giving out candy too**.
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> Mom wants to pass out cards that advertise free movie night at her church at Halloween ( **along with candy** ).

**Idle Thoughts** why the emphasis of concern on handing these invitations _with candy_? I can’t tell if you think this softens the impact of handing out the invitations or makes it worse.

It’s your mom’s house, she’s free to hand out invitations if she wants to. It’s not like she’s making getting the candy as some sort of condition of accepting the invitation.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/29 "2016-10-18T15:16:47Z")

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What’s the movie?

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/30 "2016-10-18T16:00:10Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> But what do you think? Am I making too big of a deal out of this? What would you think at getting one of these cards in your kid’s Halloween bag? Am I wrong in thinking that it could hit a soft spot with some people and/or make them look at us with a little bit (or a lot) less of a good opinion? Am I wrong in thinking that this IS a small way of “pushing” church/religion onto people?

I think your mom should give out what it pleases her to give out. Yes, you are making too big a deal. I would think nothing much of it, and I would allow my kids to go if they liked (visiting various churches is a good thing to do a bit of anyway, educationally). You are not wrong that some few people may be rubbed the wrong way, as you were, but that’s their problem. You _are_ wrong to see it as pushy: it’s just a neighborly invitation, and the people she’d be handing it to knocked on _her_ door to begin with.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/31 "2016-10-18T16:09:48Z")

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\*\*Don’t, dont, don’t, just don’t! \*\*  
Halloween is a special day & many of the normal rules go out the window on this one special day:  
[ul]  
[li]Don’t talk to strangers[/li][li]Don’t take candy from strangers[/li][li]Don’t disturb people by ringing their doorbell & asking them for free stuff.[/li][/ul]

> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> It’s inappropriate, because it is taking advantage of the access Halloween provides to foist something off onto minors that should be channelled through parents.

Don’t take advantage of this special access to foist [Del]your[/Del] religious crap\* on unsuspecting/unwilling people.

- “They” don’t know whether I’m a Priest/Reverend/Rabbi/Imam who goes to church/synagogue/mosque multiple times per day, all they know is I’m not in their sect & therefore, my denomination isn’t the “right” one . Dear Og (He he) I hate _those_ people & find a pile of them on the terminal [floor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4CizzE-zZo) _waaaaay_ too nice of an outcome.  
Will someone please find/link to the old thread about chasing the JWs down the street, wearing only underwear & brandishing a sword over his head as that’s getting closer to an appropriate

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/32 "2016-10-18T16:10:47Z")

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Based on the description, I’d say no problem. At least it’s not a Chick tract. While those do have comedic value, your mother would, without doubt, be branded the crazy lady on the block.

And yeah, 19 out of 20 kids will discard their church info right away, but I think there’s a decent chance a kid or two will be interested in free popcorn and a movie.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/33 "2016-10-18T17:14:47Z")

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I’m going to echo the speculation that the invitation will likely go straight to the trash/recycling bin.

Given that she’s also handing out candy, the trick part shouldn’t be an issue. The dentist down the street from us where I grew up always gave out treat bags that contained a toothbrush, a sample sized tube of toothpaste and a full sized pack of sugarless gum. We kids got our treat, he gave items that met with his approval and the parents appreciated the free toothbrushes for the kiddos. Everybody wins!

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/34 "2016-10-18T17:19:35Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> … but I think there’s a decent chance a kid or two will be interested in free popcorn and a movie.

AND a sermon. What, you think they’re giving away _free_ movie and popcorn? As the man said, “you have to pay for the soup”.

I’m voting in the minority. Giving away anything other than candy violates the covenant. The kids wear cute costumes, and we give free candy. Any thing else is bringing you own agenda to a fun night.

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Is it just an actual “movie night”, or is it an event designed to get a group of newbies in, show some “message” movie, then preach to the captive audience? If it’s the former then I see nothing wrong with an honest neighborhood gettogether invite added to the candy, but if it’s the latter…bad.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/36 "2016-10-18T17:42:56Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Giving away anything other than candy violates the covenant. The kids wear cute costumes, and we give free candy. Any thing else is bringing you own agenda to a fun night.

Really, so you oppose offering kids books or comics on Halloween, as Phi Kappa Phi and Neil Gaiman have recently promoted?

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/37 "2016-10-18T19:21:43Z")

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Your mom should mind her own damn business! I am sick of people trying to force their beliefs onto other people ! My ex step son gave a bible to my daughter for Xmas and my daughter and I are Jewish . My daughter didn’t tell until my ex son in law left my house. I would had given the damn bible back to him ! I didn’t mind my ex husband having his bible he never tired to force it down my throat .

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/38 "2016-10-18T20:09:46Z")

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Little kids don’t give a shit about religion on Halloween, they want candy. I got religious literature once when I was trick-or-treating, trust me.

Just turn your porch light off and pull the drapes.

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**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/give-your-opinion-on-something-mom-wants-to-pass-out-church-cards-at-halloween-update/768908/39 "2016-10-18T20:21:25Z")

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> [@purplehearingaid](#):
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> Your mom should mind her own damn business! I am sick of people trying to force their beliefs onto other people ! My ex step son gave a bible to my daughter\*\* for Xmas \*\*and my daughter and I are Jewish . My daughter didn’t tell until my ex son in law left my house. I would had given the damn bible back to him ! I didn’t mind my ex husband having his bible he never tired to force it down my throat .

Talk about transference. :eek:

Why are you celebrating Xmas anyway?

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It’s selfish and stupid, but probably harmless.

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