# Giving non-registered users more quality while forcing registered users to see ads

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 26, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520 "2005-09-26T17:17:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/81 "2005-09-27T21:54:16Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> What do you get in return for paying to subscribe?
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> You get the right to keep on posting after your month’s (or pre-P2P term) trial subscription is over. That’s the basic right you’re buying.

I was thinking the same thing.

Paying obviously allows you to post. If you’re asking what paying gets you, you must not be posting, and if you’re not posting, you’re not contributing to the community, and if you’re not contributiing to community, why should the community care about your ability to search?

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**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/82 "2005-09-27T22:05:10Z")

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Actually, paying allows you to search _and_ post. As an aside, you’re a dick!

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/83 "2005-09-27T22:16:38Z")

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> [@alterego](#):
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> Actually, paying allows you to search

But until **jdavis** clarified, it looked like everyone could search via Google, making pay-to-search redundant and useless.

> [@](#):
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> As an aside, you’re a dick!

:shrug: I don’t really see what’s so dickish about my post, but I guess I’ll take your word for it.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/84 "2005-09-27T22:35:12Z")

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Well, there you are then. Thanks Jerry! Appreciate not only the fix, but the info on said fix!

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/85 "2005-09-27T22:37:54Z")

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Wow, I honestly thought that this would go nowhere.

Thanks for listening to us.

plynck

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**Author:** ![Kuizelemartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e19b73/32.png) [@Kuizelemartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kuizelemartz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/86 "2005-09-27T23:00:34Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> Wow, I honestly thought that this would go nowhere.
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> Thanks for listening to us.
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> plynck

I also thought this would just get bigger and bigger, so much so that I changed my old cool name into this hideous thing. Oh well.

Ha, if you asked me what my screen name is right now, I have no idea, I just smashed hands on keyboard and made that my new name (after making sure there were no sex freaks on Google with this name).

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/87 "2005-09-27T23:19:02Z")

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While I don’t have a horse in this race (Google Rick= 86,900,000 hits.\* If somebody wants to wade through that to find one of my posts, hey they have earned it. 🙂 )  
But I just stopped to say, thanks Jerry. To often today people refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes, or to even admit they made a mistake.  
To get an honest and straightforward answer is refreshing.  
Thanks, you showed a lot of class in your post.

\*On preview, I did a Google on Rick +SDMB. 15,100 hits. None of the hits on the first ten pages were from [Boards.straightdope.com](http://Boards.straightdope.com). looks like when Jerry talks, Google listens. Either that or I was listed on page last of that search.

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**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/88 "2005-09-27T23:25:17Z")

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Awesome. Thanks **jdavis**!

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**Author:** ![GawnFishin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9bcb4/32.png) [@GawnFishin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GawnFishin)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2005, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/89 "2005-09-27T23:28:00Z")

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> [@Rick](#):
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> While I don’t have a horse in this race (Google Rick= 86,900,000 hits.\* If somebody wants to wade through that to find one of my posts, hey they have earned it. 🙂 )  
> But I just stopped to say, thanks Jerry. To often today people refuse to take responsibility for their mistakes, or to even admit they made a mistake.  
> To get an honest and straightforward answer is refreshing.  
> Thanks, you showed a lot of class in your post.
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> \*On preview, I did a Google on Rick +SDMB. 15,100 hits. None of the hits on the first ten pages were from [Boards.straightdope.com](http://Boards.straightdope.com). looks like when Jerry talks, Google listens. Either that or I was listed on page last of that search.

Hey [Rick](http://www.google.com/search?q=%22straight+dope+message+board%22+%2Brick&hl=en&hs=OLO&lr=&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&filter=0) looks like your Googlefu needs some work.

Jerry, thanks for the clarification, is there something that can be done now about the other sites that are indexing these boards?

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/90 "2005-09-28T00:16:12Z")

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> [@GawnFishin'](#):
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> Hey [Rick](http://www.google.com/search?q=%22straight+dope+message+board%22+%2Brick&hl=en&hs=OLO&lr=&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&filter=0) looks like your Googlefu needs some work.
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> Jerry, thanks for the clarification, is there something that can be done now about the other sites that are indexing these boards?

You are a google gawd. What it picks up is very spotty, though.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/91 "2005-09-28T00:22:53Z")

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Wow. Greatly appreciated. What a class act all around.

Faith in humanity … rising …

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/92 "2005-09-28T02:26:04Z")

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> [@jdavis](#):
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> I’ve rectified my earlier mistake by now only allowing Mediabot access to crawl the SDMB. I’ve also requested that Google remove all information they currently have stored about [http://boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com). That request will take up to 5 days to be fulfilled so for an interim period of time what Googlebot has acquired will remain available to a Google search. I will follow up on my request and verify that Google has removed what they have indexed to date. As of now Google will be prohibited from indexing any additional content.

I hope that’s really doable under the [AdSense agreement.](https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms)

> [@AdSense Agreement](#):
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> In addition, You grant Google the right to access, index and cache the Site(s), or any portion thereof, including by automated means including Web spiders or crawlers.

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**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/93 "2005-09-28T02:35:44Z")

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> [@Uvula Donor](#):
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> I hope that’s really doable under the [AdSense agreement.](https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms)

That’s exactly what I was referring to in the OP (hypothetically). It seemed a little strange that Google wouldn’t declare that right.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/94 "2005-09-28T03:56:42Z")

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> [@GawnFishin'](#):
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> Hey [Rick](http://www.google.com/search?q=%22straight+dope+message+board%22+%2Brick&hl=en&hs=OLO&lr=&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&filter=0) looks like your Googlefu needs some work

**DOH!**  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/95 "2005-09-28T04:12:32Z")

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So how do i block the ads? I can’t believe I paid to post on this site and now I gotta look at ads. Can they be blocked? Or should i just stop coming here?

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/96 "2005-09-28T04:21:59Z")

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[Yo, Bo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336615).

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**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/97 "2005-09-28T10:25:19Z")

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> [@jdavis](#):
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> I apologize for making a mistake in how I requested Google crawl the SDMB so that relevant ads could be delivered.

Thank you. This is what I wanted to hear.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/98 "2005-09-28T10:57:42Z")

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It looks rather like a contract with AdSense means you don’t get a choice in how the Google spiders crawl and index the site.

Why would they comply with a request to not cache and index this site, when the Adsense Agreement specifically gives them that right?

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/99 "2005-09-28T12:40:40Z")

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> [@Snowboarder Bo](#):
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> So how do i block the ads? I can’t believe I paid to post on this site and now I gotta look at ads. Can they be blocked? Or should i just stop coming here?

Yes - Firefox and adblock are the way to go. I’m actively seeking out sites with ads just so I can block them at the company level, it’s so cool.

One day I’ll have nailed every last one of the bastards and my internet experience will be serene. (Well once the Firefox Forum Idiot Blocker moves out of beta). 😉

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**Author:** ![jdavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@jdavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jdavis)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/giving-non-registered-users-more-quality-while-forcing-registered-users-to-see-ads/323520/100 "2005-09-28T14:14:07Z")

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As of yesterday evening Google removed the information it’s search engine had about the SDMB. When I search for anything from [http://boards.straightdope.com](http://boards.straightdope.com) nothing is returned. We are basically “disappeared”. Once again my apologies for my mistake. I believe it has been rectified.

Jerry

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