# Glad to see the Republicans are still running Congress **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648 "2009-08-16T19:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/21 "2009-08-16T21:38:05Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If there is any…any!..meaningful reform, people will benefit. And they will be grateful to the Dems… Yup, and it’ll help elect more liberal dems, and weed out the fucking blue dogs and corporatists, but damn it, I want my beef, bean and cheese burrito, and I want it NOW! ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/22 "2009-08-16T21:51:32Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > I have very few good things to say about your predecessor, but one thing he was good at was strong arming legislation he wanted passed through Congress. He held firm to his principles (even though they were wrong), and didn’t cave at the slightest hint of resistance from the other side like you seem to be doing. I had the same thought today. Obama is actually making Bush look _better_. At least Bush could look his critics dead in the eye and say “Yep, well, too fuckin’ bad.” I voted for Obama too, but right now I think he’s a gigantic pussy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/23 "2009-08-16T21:53:16Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > I had the same thought today. Obama is actually making Bush look _better_. At least Bush could look his critics dead in the eye and say “Yep, well, too fuckin’ bad.”… He did no such thing! He looked you right in the eye and lied through his teeth! ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/24 "2009-08-16T22:01:21Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I’m not a Republican, but > > Thank God for that. > > A small but significant victory for liberty. I suspect the socialists will go home now and think up a new totalitarian plan. So the fight’s not over. It never is… when you’re dealing with socialists. OK, I’ll bite. What are you free to do now that you wouldn’t be free to do if there was a public option. Egg time is… on! ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/25 "2009-08-16T22:09:32Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > [76%](http://senateagenda.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/nbcwall-street-journal-76-of-americans-want-public-option-choice/) of Americans want a public option. Whose interests are being represented if not corporate interests? Not anymore, they don’t. > **[Support for Congressional Health Care Reform Falls to New Low](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/support_for_congressional_health_care_reform_falls_to_new_low)** > > Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That’s down five points from two weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/26 "2009-08-16T22:13:37Z")
Yes, **Carol** , lying works. You proud of that? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/27 "2009-08-16T22:16:55Z")
It keeps us FREE! And by FREE! we mean uninsured, polluted, and at war. But it’s what they told us Freedom meant, and we all love FREEDOM! ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/28 "2009-08-16T22:23:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Yes, **Carol** , lying works. You proud of that? It’s not mine to be proud (or ashamed) of. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/29 "2009-08-16T22:24:53Z")
Oh, yes it is! That’s the whole idea, sweetcakes! Its all ours, lock, stock, and barrel. Sea to shining sea, purple mountains, amber grains, all of it. Ours. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/30 "2009-08-16T22:26:00Z")
Rep. Mike Ross (D-AR): “I will never vote for a bill to kill old people, period.” Excuse, please, time to hurl. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/31 "2009-08-16T22:35:15Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > [76%](http://senateagenda.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/nbcwall-street-journal-76-of-americans-want-public-option-choice/) of Americans want a public option. The latest report from Rasmussen [shows](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/support_for_congressional_health_care_reform_falls_to_new_low) only 42% of Americans now support Congressional Democrats’ and President Obama’s proposal for a government-centric overhaul of the American health care system. This poll shows that the decline in support for the President’s plan, which began in earnest in late June, has continued unabated. Two months ago, support for the Obama/Kennedy/Pelosi health care overhaul stood at 50%; in July, it fell to 47%, and now, in August, it is 42%. > [@](#): > > Sixty-two percent (62%) of unaffiliated voters oppose the health care plan, and 51% are strongly opposed. This marks an uptick in strong opposition among both Republicans and unaffiliateds, while the number of strongly supportive Democrats is unchanged. The people have spoken, and last I checked, it’s still a democracy. Now that that’s dealt with, _let’s talk tort reform_. EDIT: Beaten by **Carol**. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/32 "2009-08-16T22:36:18Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Not anymore, they don’t. > [Support for Congressional Health Care Reform Falls to New Low - Rasmussen Reports®](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/august_2009/support_for_congressional_health_care_reform_falls_to_new_low) Tell me Carol Stream, in your heart of hearts, do you believe that this drastic change in opinion was caused by a fair, honest, and logical debate amongst a fully informed populace? Or a well financed campaign of lies and fear tactics that have prevailed? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/33 "2009-08-16T22:40:15Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I’m not a Republican, but > > Thank God for that. > > A small but significant victory for liberty. I suspect the socialists will go home now and think up a new totalitarian plan. So the fight’s not over. It never is… when you’re dealing with socialists. This is why this country needs a full-strength Lenin or Hugo Chavez. So you can learn what these words actually mean. _foolsguinea_ ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/34 "2009-08-16T22:41:45Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > The people have spoken, And they have said “_Duhhhhh…_” ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/35 "2009-08-16T22:46:15Z")
> [@athelas](#): > > The people have spoken, and last I checked, it’s still a democracy. AHIP has spoken, and the middle class will continue to dissipate as more and more people are bankrupted by not adequately planning for their cancers. > [@](#): > > Now that that’s dealt with, _let’s talk tort reform_. Well, it is the next logical step. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/36 "2009-08-16T23:00:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Because you gain an awful lot from society just by being here. Including the enviorment that makes those services possibile. What? I fully understand that my job would not exist without a complex society. Why does that mean that all I do is take and not give? You do realize that I pay a shitload in taxes, right? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/37 "2009-08-16T23:01:54Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > What? I fully understand that my job would not exist without a complex society. Why does that mean that all I do is take and not give? You do realize that I pay a shitload in taxes, right? You should get a tax lawyer to help you out. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/38 "2009-08-16T23:04:17Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > OK, I’ll bite. What are you free to do now that you wouldn’t be free to do if there was a public option. Egg time is… on! Free to spend my hard-earned money on my family instead of yours. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/39 "2009-08-16T23:07:21Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, yes it is! That’s the whole idea, sweetcakes! Its all ours, lock, stock, and barrel. Sea to shining sea, purple mountains, amber grains, all of it. Ours. Yes, ours. But not Yours, Obama’s, or the Liberal’s, or the SDMB’s. It is all of ours, including the majority of people who don’t want Congress to pass any of the current health care legislation. If none passes, the system will have actually _worked_. ---
**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648/40 "2009-08-16T23:18:20Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Yes, ours. But not Yours, Obama’s, or **the Liberal’s** , or the SDMB’s. Who is this big **Liberal**? Maybe us libs could then get someone to actually oppose the right-wing effectively. > [@](#): > > It is all of ours, including the majority of people who don’t want Congress to pass any of the current health care legislation. Untrue, but of course only the deathers count, since anyone else is not a real American. > [@](#): > > If none passes, the system will have actually _worked_. Yes, the multi-billion-dollar right-wing propaganda system indeed functions superbly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glad-to-see-the-republicans-are-still-running-congress/506648.md?page=3)