# Glasnost Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/21 "2011-02-18T16:16:04Z")
Out. But it sounds interesting; please spoil me. The tie-resolution mechanic can be simplified by one coin. All heads / all tails in 4 flips is a 2 in 16 chance, equal to the probability of all heads in 3 flips, or a roll of 1 on 1d8. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/22 "2011-02-18T16:31:19Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **/OUT** > > A little bird tells me that **ChrisK and I** might be doing something else. > > If you would want to _ **bargain** _ with me, I might could tell you what, ahead of time. If you’re just teasing me about this I will so vote for you right out of the gate in the next game we play together. I’m busy at work right now so I’ll have to pass on this game looks fun though. I think the mad bomber role will be a blast. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/23 "2011-02-18T16:34:51Z")
Yeah I def want to be the mad bomber. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/24 "2011-02-18T16:49:46Z")
> [@](#): > > And now that I’ve read further, I see we don’t start with a Survivor. So we can all win by not voting to lynch anyone and wait for the coins to break the zero-vote tie by lynching all of us. Yay! I’m glad I’m not the only one who looks for all-win technicalities like this. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/25 "2011-02-18T16:50:54Z")
Indeed. Pleo’s no-vote plan is superior to my thought, which was to have everyone vote him or herself, as that would have involved giving a last-minute unvoter the chance to steal a victory [del]7[/del] 1 time out of 8. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/26 "2011-02-18T18:38:36Z")
1. Mahaloth 2. Gadarene 3. MentalGuy 4. pedescribe 5. Suburban Plankton 6. Wolverine 7. Idle Thoughts 8. Drain Bead 9. Manwich 10. Astral Rejection 11. storyteller0910 12. Tom Scum (correct my spelling will you?) 13. Pleonast 14.One and Only Wanderers 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. \*\*Revised Win Conditions \*\* Town: You win when all scum are dead, the deranged serial bomber is dead, and at least one Town player is alive. Scum: You win when half the number of living players is less than or equal to the number of living scum players, the deranged serial bomber is dead and at least one Scum player is alive. Survivor: You win if someone else who is not the deranged serial bomber wins, and you are still alive OR if you are the only player alive. Deranged Serial Bomber: You win when everyone is dead OR you and no more than one other player is alive. Also, Please keep the corrections coming. I beta test like Microsoft. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/27 "2011-02-18T18:44:10Z")
Personally, I would have changed the lynch tie-breaker to make a mass lynch impossible instead of tweaking the win conditions. Let the players try to go for the all-inclusive win. I can guarantee there’d be defectors before that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/28 "2011-02-18T18:46:41Z")
I think it’s truer to the mad bomber role for him or her to win alone if everyone is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/29 "2011-02-18T18:52:47Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Personally, I would have changed the lynch tie-breaker to make a mass lynch impossible instead of tweaking the win conditions. Let the players try to go for the all-inclusive win. I can guarantee there’d be defectors before that happens. Personally, I hate ties, and prefer tie breaking mechanisms which have a punitave to all players element in them. Which is why my favorite tie breaker is the “Sudden Death Hammer”. But this is wildy unpopular, and causes much gnashing of teeth. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/30 "2011-02-18T19:05:34Z")
What is a “sudden death hammer?” ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/31 "2011-02-18T19:17:07Z")
“Golden goal” I think. The next vote for one of the tied player lynches him (or unvote lynches the other). Didn’t you have that in Marvel Civil War (and got a couple of weeks extension on Day One until **peeker** hammered?) I’m already in a game so I won’t join. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/32 "2011-02-18T20:35:36Z")
Been a while, but I’m feeling it. /in ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/33 "2011-02-18T20:46:47Z")
I’m in. Make sure you really shuffle the deck. Peeker’s Age of Masonry needs to end (assuming he signs up). 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/34 "2011-02-18T21:39:43Z")
It already is. He was a vanilla this past game. Maybe you just don’t remember [GLaDDos]because we murdered him[/GLaDDos] ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/35 "2011-02-18T23:05:48Z")
1. Mahaloth 2. Gadarene 3. MentalGuy 4. pedescribe 5. Suburban Plankton 6. Wolverine 7. Idle Thoughts 8. Drain Bead 9. Manwich 10. Astral Rejection 11. storyteller0910 12. Tom Scum (correct my spelling will you?) 13. Pleonast 14.One and Only Wanderers 14. Zeriel 15. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Also sudden death hammer = In the event of a tie, the day continues until the tie is broken, but ends immediately upon the action which breaks the tie. Players seem to hate this, since there isn’t much motivation to switch votes except to end the day. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/36 "2011-02-19T04:55:47Z")
One vanilla role in a swath does not end an Age 😛 ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/37 "2011-02-19T15:26:55Z")
ok, fark it i’ll play. i think i am finally caught up in the other two games. i may not be able to recreate the volume of posts achieved in LOTR, however. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/38 "2011-02-19T15:28:23Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Players seem to hate this, since there isn’t much motivation to switch votes except to end the day. \ i don’t have a problem with this. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/39 "2011-02-19T16:32:30Z")
OK, I’ll jump in. I’m hyper-sensitive, so please go easy on me (and _please_ include some happy faces whenever you “bitch slap” me. :eek: ) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/40 "2011-02-19T16:46:49Z")
_[gently bitch slaps **septimus**]_ :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)🙂 happy to be of service! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757.md?page=3)