# Glasnost Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/541 "2011-02-25T23:16:14Z")
**unvote Mental Guy**. > [@Zeriel](#): > > \*\*Pleonast \*\*and \*\*Astral \*\*are now the two most suspicious people in the game–here’s why. With a tie, we have a 6.25% chance of “lynch all”, and a 93.75% chance of “no lynch”. It is almost NEVER in town’s best interest to have a “no lynch”, because it denies us information. Both players I’ve bolded have moved their vote to force a tie, without any acknowledgement that they have done so, despite SEVERAL unofficial vote counts. When I voted, I don’t believe I caused the tie. If my memory is correct, Suburban Plankton did. I admit I could be wrong on this… I’m trying to post at work. What’s more, singling me out for voting whom I at the time found scummiest, when a whole flurry of votes and unvotes actually caused the situation, seems odd. I don’t have time now to find another target. Tom Scud struck me early on, but that case was built on a single event, and I’m not feeling it after his subsequent posts. Guiri’s posts gave me a gut feeling against her, and her response has been troubling. This bothers me as well: > [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m leaving my vote on Astral on the assumption and approval of Pleonast getting lynched. Once again, if you think I’m scum, VOTE FOR ME. I don’t understand why people vote for one person, but find somebody else more suspicious. In this case, why vote for me if you want Pleonast dead? I’ll be back in a few to vote after pondering. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/542 "2011-02-25T23:18:01Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Well, I, for one, happen to think that the reasons players place votes have some usefulness. Especially votes that are placed on the lynched player. There were five players who put votes on me\*\* that are anti-town\*\*. It would be foolish for the others to ignore them. Repeating it doesn’t make it so. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/543 "2011-02-25T23:27:46Z")
I honestly don’t have a second target at the moment, now that I’ve unvoted **MentalGuy**. I was looking at **Astral** , but I’m sufficiently convinced by his latest post to hold off further examination of him until tomorrow. Like **Astral** , **Tom Scud** has pinged me a couple of times, but I don’t really have time to go back over his posts before the Day ends. And I’ve already explained why I’m no longer voting for **Pleo**. At the moment, then, I’m content abstaining. I’ll give it some more thought, but I doubt I’ll change my mind before the Day ends. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/544 "2011-02-25T23:29:38Z")
NETA: I share **sachertorte’s** skepticism of **MentalGuy’s** claim, and I also agree with his more recent analysis of why **MentalGuy** being scum might not be the worst thing in the world at this point. I look forward to seeing what happens toNight when the dust clears toMorrow. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/545 "2011-02-25T23:33:46Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > This bothers me as well: > > Once again, if you think I’m scum, VOTE FOR ME. I don’t understand why people vote for one person, but find somebody else more suspicious. In this case, why vote for me if you want Pleonast dead? > > I’ll be back in a few to vote after pondering. sachertorte’s quote is missing, but I think I’m in the same boat. **Vote: Astral** I’ll put my vote back on you, but I also approve of the Pleonast lynch. I think you’re scummier. I’d rather see you lynched, but that doesn’t mean I’m against a Pleonast lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/546 "2011-02-25T23:56:03Z")
No way that the Town Cop wouldn’t claim when he’s tied for the lead. No way. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/547 "2011-02-26T00:01:58Z")
I just don’t have time here at work to build a case I’m comfortable with. I haven’t gotten a chance to go back and reread the key people I’m suspicious of. I’m gonna have to end this day with a no vote as a result. For bookkeeping purposes: I’m no longer as suspicious of Tom Scud, but I’d really like to go and reread his participation today. Guiri still seems somewhat suspicious, but I base that on almost no case whatsoever. Again, a reread is in order. Zeriel has been pinging me for various posts, but I’m unable to build a case there, either. Guiri and Zeriel are my two big picks here on Day 1. I suspect there’s a chance I could be vigged tonight, as a lot of folks are suspicious of me. If I’m dead tomorrow, I’d hope someone would follow up on one of those two leads. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/548 "2011-02-26T00:02:44Z")
Day 1 Final Vote Tally Pleonast(8) :Zeriel[162], Mental Guy[187-255][392], [del]Drain Bead[202-395][/del], [del]Gadarene[208-384][/del], [del]septimus[212-269][/del], pedescribe[216], peekercpa[230-399][537], ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies[236], One and Only Wanderers[288], Tom Scud[327-398][514], Suburban Plankton[444] Astral Rejection(4) :guiri[269], special ed[273-509][545], sachertorte[317], septimus[409] Mahaloth(3) :Idle Thoughts[159], [del]Suburban Plankton[217-444][/del], Wolverine[241], Manwich[265], [del]septimus[284-409][/del] Mental Guy(1) :[del]Pleonast[240-240][461-529][/del], [del]Gadarene[394-516][/del], Drain Bead[395], [del]Tom Scud[398-514][/del], [del]peekercpa[399-537][/del], [del]Astral Rejection[420-541][/del], [del]special ed[509-515][/del] pedescribe(1) :Pleonast[240-461][529] Idle Thoughts(1) :Mahaloth[291] guiri(1) :storyteller0910[306] Wolverine(0) :[del]Zeriel[137-162][/del], [del]Mahaloth[147-291][/del] One and Only Wanderers(0) :[del]pedescribe[138-216][/del] septimus(0) :[del]Tom Scud[238-285][/del], [del]Mental Guy[255-392][/del] Zeriel(0) :[del]Pleonast[240-240][/del] Drain Bead(0) :[del]Pleonast[240-240][/del] Gadarene(0) :[del]Pleonast[240-240][/del] Tom Scud(0) :[del]Astral Rejection[266-420][/del] Did Not Vote:Gadarene,Astral Rejection Pleonast Has Been lynched. As it turns out **Pleonast** was the **Scum Roleblocker**. Night 1 begins **now** , and ends in **48** hours. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/549 "2011-02-26T00:03:45Z")
Oh, for the love of - Really? _Really_? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/550 "2011-02-26T00:04:36Z")
NICE!!! ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/551 "2011-02-26T00:06:13Z")
Gah, curse the fluff-only Night. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/552 "2011-02-26T00:06:21Z")
Wow. Just…wow. I wish we had Night strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/553 "2011-02-26T00:07:51Z")
Wow. Just…wow. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/554 "2011-02-26T00:08:01Z")
Hot damn! ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/555 "2011-02-26T00:13:36Z")
Jeez, nice. I wasn’t feeling that lynch at all. Glad I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/556 "2011-02-26T00:14:00Z")
knew it all along. woot the fracking woot. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/557 "2011-02-26T00:17:15Z")
woot the fracking woot in the ass! ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/558 "2011-02-26T00:19:54Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > knew it all along. > > woot the fracking woot. for the record, this post is 5th when one googles: woot the fracking woot ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/559 "2011-02-26T00:27:04Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > for the record, this post is 5th when one googles: woot the fracking woot actually it’s now number three. your’s is number two. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/560 "2011-02-26T00:27:57Z")
holy crap. And I had a sense of doom when I left. Nice one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757.md?page=29)