# Glasnost Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/601 "2011-02-28T01:35:14Z")

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well sorry to lose a townie but at least the bomber didn’t accomplish jack.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/602 "2011-02-28T01:48:34Z")

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Suppose that’s about the best possible result of the Night. This game seems to be going pretty well so far.

The end of yesterDay will give us plenty to talk about, I’m sure. First off, I want to hear from **MentalGuy** about what happened to him last Night.

Secondly, and this is just a general game observation…what the hell was **Pleonast** smoking? Was this a “Oh, shit, if I don’t claim people will know I’m Scum because I claim in every game, so I have to claim in this game even though doing so has significant drawbacks for Town and I’ll get a lot of heat for it?” It seems so risky for a Scum Power to basically throw himself onto the fire that early, especially since they could day-strategize and potentially come up with a way around it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/603 "2011-02-28T01:50:12Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> Can’t wait till morning. Should be really, really interesting.

What an odd statement to say before a reveal. Did you know what was going to happen in advance?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/604 "2011-02-28T01:51:00Z")

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I cannot imagine that Tom Scud was a Vig Kill.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/605 "2011-02-28T01:52:07Z")

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I assume our votes don’t carry over automatically, so I’ll:

**Vote Idle**

His play yesterday was scummy. Sliding in, placing a vote(yes, it was on me) for being the second to vote someone, then going away and avoiding the spotlight. It just seems like a very good way to avoid attracting attention.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/606 "2011-02-28T01:52:27Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Secondly, and this is just a general game observation…what the hell was **Pleonast** smoking? Was this a “Oh, shit, if I don’t claim people will know I’m Scum because I claim in every game, so I have to claim in this game even though doing so has significant drawbacks for Town and I’ll get a lot of heat for it?” It seems so risky for a Scum Power to basically throw himself onto the fire that early, especially since they could day-strategize and potentially come up with a way around it.

Except when he was Scum a couple of games ago, he didn’t claim. So he probably had to make sure that wasn’t brought up against him.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/607 "2011-02-28T01:52:43Z")

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Kinda wonder what it was about him that made him such a target.

Did anyone get an “Arise, chicken” message? If nobody comes forward, it’s a big fat FOS to **Suburban Plankton**.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/608 "2011-02-28T01:53:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What an odd statement to say before a reveal. Did you know what was going to happen in advance?

What in the world are you talking about? Jesus Christ.

I, too, would very much like to hear from MentalGuy.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/609 "2011-02-28T01:53:48Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Except when he was Scum a couple of games ago, he didn’t claim. So he probably had to make sure that wasn’t brought up against him.

Not just a couple games ago, the very last game. This is the problem with having rigid rules about what you do in every game.

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/610 "2011-02-28T01:57:00Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> well sorry to lose a townie but at least the bomber didn’t accomplish jack.

And they are not going to accomplish jack. Drain Bead investigated as 3rd party.

**Vote Drain Bead**

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/611 "2011-02-28T02:00:11Z")

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and i am kind of interested to hear from **ed** and **sach**. both of them voted not **pleo** but both were espousing that they’d be fine with his lynch even going so far as to intimate voting for him if necessary. but when it came down to it they were someplace else.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/612 "2011-02-28T02:00:47Z")

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In the absence of a cop counter-claim, **vote Drain Bead**.

I cannot see a scum liar cop throwing said ruse away so soon, even if I am moderately suspicious that he’s alive and wasn’t jailed.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/613 "2011-02-28T02:05:31Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> And they are not going to accomplish jack. Drain Bead investigated as 3rd party.
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> **Vote Drain Bead** /COLOR]

\<bleached\>

otie dotie. since i was just getting to posit that the most likely cause of concern as the game progressed was most likely going to be our bomber.

**[color=blue]vote drain**

so solly **drain**. either you are, whoopee. or you are not and then **mental** gets stretched tomorrow. which is merely a whoopee delayed by a Day.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/614 "2011-02-28T02:06:56Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> What in the world are you talking about? Jesus Christ.

Well, it was what you said. “really really interesting” sounded like you knew something different/special was gonna happen.

Oh, and:  
\*\*  
Unvote Idle\*\*

**Vote DrainBead**

Unless we have a counterclaim, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/615 "2011-02-28T02:08:16Z")

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To be more specific, Gadarene, it was that you said it “should be really, really interesting.”

Should be because of what?

I can’t be the only one that read that comment today and thought it was weird.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/616 "2011-02-28T02:09:27Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> To be more specific, Gadarene, it was that you said it “should be really, really interesting.”
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> Should be because of what?
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> I can’t be the only one that read that comment today and thought it was weird.

Why wouldn’t the scum reactions to losing their roleblocker on day 1 be interesting? That’s how I interpreted it.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/617 "2011-02-28T02:13:34Z")

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Well, that seals the deal.

**Vote MentalGuy**

The good news is that at worst if I get lynched toDay, we’re trading Scum for vanilla Town. The bad news is that if the Scum didn’t get a sleeper last Night, my claim potentially gets them one step closer to getting a new member.

I was actually expecting **MentalGuy** to claim he was jailed last Night. That would have been the smart thing for Scum to do. I strongly urge the jailer, if you DID jail **MentalGuy** , to not claim! The truth will come out soon enough, and it’s more important to keep you under cover.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/618 "2011-02-28T02:14:29Z")

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**Astral** : you are still on my list for voting to make a tie happen on Day one and not even acknowledging it.

**Idle** : you are still on my list for being very untalkative.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/619 "2011-02-28T02:16:07Z")

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Also, since I’m voting for sure Scum, I’m not going to change my vote, but if I make it to Tomorrow I expect to be voting for **Mahaloth**. Watch the number of times he’s tried to poke at people and then backed off from it when it didn’t go anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/620 "2011-02-28T02:23:17Z")

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For those of you who disbelieve me, just remember back to the end of Yesterday…why on Earth did **MentalGuy** not claim Town Cop until the last possible minute? He came back tied for the lead and still made people wait until the last possible minute before he made the claim. That was _incredibly_ anti-Town.

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