# Glasnost Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 32

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/621 "2011-02-28T02:25:02Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Also, since I’m voting for sure Scum, I’m not going to change my vote, but if I make it to Tomorrow I expect to be voting for **Mahaloth**. Watch the number of times he’s tried to poke at people and then backed off from it when it didn’t go anywhere.

I’ll count.

Zero.

I haven’t backed off at all.

Count for us and provide the evidence instead of smudging me.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/622 "2011-02-28T02:26:29Z")

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Seriously, Drain, count them and list them.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/623 "2011-02-28T02:36:40Z")

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Well, **Mahaloth** , since you asked so nicely, I’ll provide you with the one that stuck in my mind since the reveal yesterDay.

[Post 300](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13502004&postcount=300), in which you accused me of stirring up discussion of **Pleonast** to distract us. I ignored it, you didn’t bother following up…but it sure looks interesting now that we know **Pleonast** is Scum, doesn’t it? What were _you_ trying to distract _me_ from?

There is one other, but I’m going to bed soon. I’ll get to it Tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/624 "2011-02-28T02:38:15Z")

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Sorry, meant that to be a lowercase-t tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/625 "2011-02-28T02:41:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> To be more specific, Gadarene, it was that you said it “should be really, really interesting.”
> 
> Should be because of what?
> 
> I can’t be the only one that read that comment today and thought it was weird.

As Zeriel said, i was referring to the fact that the roleblocker was dead, thus narrowing the various scenarios in which MentalGuy survived the Night. It was intended to be a fluffy comment about how I couldn’t wait for the Day to start.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/626 "2011-02-28T02:46:44Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Well, **Mahaloth** , since you asked so nicely, I’ll provide you with the one that stuck in my mind since the reveal yesterDay.
> 
> [Post 300](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13502004&postcount=300), in which you accused me of stirring up discussion of **Pleonast** to distract us. I ignored it, you didn’t bother following up…but it sure looks interesting now that we know **Pleonast** is Scum, doesn’t it? What were _you_ trying to distract _me_ from?
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> There is one other, but I’m going to bed soon. I’ll get to it Tomorrow.

One stuck in your mind and you are telling town to go count them up, like I did it often and to several people? And now you think there is one more, but it’s too late to list? Even briefly?

Why did you ignore it my question? I was trying to get people to not poke/prod Pleonast and drag out the long discussion on his game policies. I didn’t know he was scum and I still think that was a lucky lynch(which is what I said before the reveal).

I have not backed down from anyone. My suspicions are in this order:

1. Drain Bead - Since we don’t have a counterclaim yet.

2. Idle - For his play style on Day One and his jump in, vote, and jump out method.

3. Wolverine - Same thing I said yesterday.  
I back down from none of these and never have.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/627 "2011-02-28T03:31:10Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> And they are not going to accomplish jack. Drain Bead investigated as 3rd party.
> 
> **Vote Drain Bead**

You weren’t jailed and you weren’t killed?

well, that’s a big successful glass of WiFoM

**Vote: Drain Bead**

This is easy enough. if you’re wrong, you’re dead.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/628 "2011-02-28T03:33:05Z")

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Have to reread the latter half of Day 1, but until then  
**Vote Drain Bead**  
because I’m willing to trust MentalGuy for now and see how it goes.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/629 "2011-02-28T03:33:16Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> and i am kind of interested to hear from **ed** and **sach**. both of them voted not **pleo** but both were espousing that they’d be fine with his lynch even going so far as to intimate voting for him if necessary. but when it came down to it they were someplace else.

I didn’t intimate voting for Pleo if necessary. I was leaning towards voting Mental Guy.

Then Mental Guy claimed and I was OK lynching Pleo, though I would have rather seen Astral lynched.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/630 "2011-02-28T03:34:17Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I can’t be the only one that read that comment today and thought it was weird.

Yes you can

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/631 "2011-02-28T03:34:21Z")

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Huh. See you soon in the forbidden thread, Drain.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/632 "2011-02-28T03:35:43Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> **Astral** : you are still on my list for voting to make a tie happen on Day one and not even acknowledging it.

Astral did acknowledge it. Though he claims that his vote did not make the tie and someone else’s (Suburban maybe) did.

It requires someone to go back and check into it.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/633 "2011-02-28T03:42:02Z")

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**Unvote: Drain Bead**

I don’t want to trigger a hammer early. we need everyone participating.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/634 "2011-02-28T03:48:03Z")

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**Vote Drain**

Unless someone steps forward and counter-claims Cop, I can’t see how you’re going to get out of claiming, and quite possibly still dying anyway.

I’ve been pinged by seemingly innocuous statements before, but Gadrene’s was not one of them.

Along with many, I’m sure, I’m going to be examining the pool of people not voting for Pleo yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/635 "2011-02-28T04:02:11Z")

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Looks like we are at 7 votes for Drain, folks. 12 is the hammer.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/636 "2011-02-28T05:20:44Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Kinda wonder what it was about him that made him such a target.
> 
> Did anyone get an “Arise, chicken” message? If nobody comes forward, it’s a big fat FOS to **Suburban Plankton**.

A big FOS for what exactly?

If nobody comes forward, and if we assume that means the Scum did successfully recruit last Night, how am I necessarily more suspicious than anyone else?  
\*\*Vote Drain Bead  
\*\*  
With 1 Scum already dead, I don’t see a Scummy \*\*MentalGuy \*\*making this play.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/637 "2011-02-28T06:26:01Z")

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If any of you hammer Drain, you die tomorrow. Just so you know.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/638 "2011-02-28T06:33:55Z")

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add a “unilaterally or accidentally” in there as appropriate, natch.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/639 "2011-02-28T07:35:49Z")

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I will hold off voting for **Drain Bead** to give other players a chance to catch up, but it seems obvious at this stage we should test Mental Guy’s claim.

I was surprised \*\*Pleonast \*\*turned out scummy but he obviously thought his usual play was a safer bet than his pretending to have learnt from previous games and calming down. He got loud early in the game and he had a power role, so surely the scum had a plan to divert attention from him and get someone else lynched later in the day. Have to read day one again.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/640 "2011-02-28T08:07:46Z")

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I agree we have to lynch Drain today and then judge Mentalguy based on the results.

What are we going to do with the timing? Hammer or let the day play out?

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