# Glasnost Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 54

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1061 "2011-03-08T22:35:46Z")

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I’d prefer it if you weren’t the default, to be honest, **sach** , since I think you’re much more engaged and analytical about this game than most of us right now, and we’d be losing one of our strongest players if you are, in fact, vanilla.

I’m not quite sure how to suggest an alternate target, however, so I’ll just hope that **Mahaloth** provides a different name for the Vig before the close of the Day.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1062 "2011-03-08T22:39:43Z")

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Well if **Mahaloth** shows up perhaps he will be so kind as to use large font to make sure both the Vig and Doc know of his choice. Coordination is PARAMOUNT.

I really don’t understand why he didn’t say anything. He’s read the post with the plan. He even voted for it.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1063 "2011-03-08T22:45:37Z")

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Day 3 Vote Tally

septimus(7) :Astral Rejection[846], Zeriel[896], Suburban Plankton[945], Mental Guy[960], ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies[997], Gadarene[1042], Manwich[1056]  
Astral Rejection(4) :guiri[855], septimus[883], special ed[888], sachertorte[959]  
Gadarene(1) :[del]septimus[825-883][/del], [del]Astral Rejection[830-845][/del], peekercpa[902]  
special ed(1) :storyteller0910[1046]  
Idle Thoughts(0) :[del]Mahaloth[810-818][/del]  
Mahaloth(0) :[del]Manwich[815-983][/del], [del]sachertorte[842-959][/del], [del]pedescribe[874-990][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts[908-955][/del]  
Suburban Plankton(0) :[del]pedescribe[860-874][/del]  
Did Not Vote:Mahaloth,pedescribe,Wolverine,Idle Thoughts,One and Only Wanderers  
With these votes, septimus would be lynched.

Day ends in 1.25 hours.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1064 "2011-03-08T22:50:48Z")

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Okay, since I might end up dead by morning if we don’t have a Doc, I’ll lay out the vanilla/not-vanilla plan here WITH claim order since if I’m dead you’ll know I’m Town and blah blah blah.

Vanilla Town claim Vanilla Town  
_Vigilante claims Vanilla Town_

All other Town claim NOT vanilla Town

Scum claim whatever

There were 21 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

1. Suburban Plankton - presumed Vanilla Town  
20.guiri  
[del]21. sachertorte[/del]Vanilla Town  
[del]13. Pleonast[/del]Scum Roleblocker  
[del]1. Mahaloth[/del] Mason  
[del]8. Drain Bead[/del] Bomber
2. storyteller0910
3. Gadarene
4. Zeriel  
[del]18.septimus[/del] Vanilla Town
5. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies  
14.One and Only Wanderers
6. Astral Rejection  
[del]4. pedescribe[/del] Vanilla Town  
17.peekercpa  
[del]12. Tom Scud[/del] Vanilla Town
7. Idle Thoughts  
19.special ed
8. Manwich
9. Wolverine  
[del]3. MentalGuy[/del] Cop  
Timestamp: 2011-03-08 22:41:04 UTC  
It is important to note that if I’m dead in the morning, we likely do NOT have a Doc. Therefore both sleepers would be in the Vanilla Pool. Please keep this in mind. Also, look at the numbers in each population versus the published role list to determine the number of scum in each group.

If scum succeed in waking a scum sleeper after the claims, the Town Doc will be in a difficult position. I don’t know what you need to do in that case, but I’m sure you’ll think of something. Good Luck.

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**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1065 "2011-03-08T23:02:16Z")

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Sorry I’ve been so sick and haven’t participated, but I **vote Yes to the Night plan**.

Also, **vote septimus**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1066 "2011-03-08T23:35:49Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Well if **Mahaloth** shows up perhaps he will be so kind as to use large font to make sure both the Vig and Doc know of his choice. Coordination is PARAMOUNT.
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> I really don’t understand why he didn’t say anything. He’s read the post with the plan. He even voted for it.

I’m sorry, what specifically do you need from me?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1067 "2011-03-08T23:36:51Z")

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**Yes**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1068 "2011-03-08T23:40:13Z")

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**Vote Pedescribe**

Ahem.

* * *

I voted for Pedescribe.\*\*\*

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1069 "2011-03-08T23:40:44Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’m sorry, what specifically do you need from me?

Clearly name one of the players who have claimed as Vanilla town - the vig will then target that player and the doc (if they exist) will then protect them.

Preferably not sach, because as Gad said, sach is “much more engaged and analytical about this game than most of us right now”. I strongly agree with that, for what it is worth.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1070 "2011-03-08T23:41:47Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Clearly name one of the players who have claimed as Vanilla town - the vig will then target that player and the doc (if they exist) will then protect them.
> 
> Preferably not sach, because as Gad said, sach is “much more engaged and analytical about this game than most of us right now”. I strongly agree with that, for what it is worth.

Got it.

I thought I had voted already.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1071 "2011-03-09T00:03:54Z")

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Jeez, you just don’t wanna be clear about this, do you? 😃

Mahaloth has selected Pedescribe as our vig / doctor target, if I’m not mistaken.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1072 "2011-03-09T00:06:15Z")

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**Yes to the plan.**  
I’m looking shady at all those who voted no. Uh, why not? Like Story said, it is much more pro-Town for it to be implemented.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1073 "2011-03-09T00:07:00Z")

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Wait, I take that back. Are you correcting Red’s vote count, instead?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1074 "2011-03-09T00:09:49Z")

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Final Day 3 Vote Tally

septimus(8) :Astral Rejection[846], Zeriel[896], Suburban Plankton[945], Mental Guy[960], ComeToTheDarksideWeHaveCookies[997], Gadarene[1042], Manwich[1056], Wolverine[1065]  
Astral Rejection(4) :guiri[855], septimus[883], special ed[888], sachertorte[959]  
Gadarene(1) :[del]septimus[825-883][/del], [del]Astral Rejection[830-845][/del], peekercpa[902]  
special ed(1) :storyteller0910[1046]  
pedescribe(1) :Mahaloth[1068]  
Idle Thoughts(0) :[del]Mahaloth[810-818][/del]  
Mahaloth(0) :[del]Manwich[815-983][/del], [del]sachertorte[842-959][/del], [del]pedescribe[874-990][/del], [del]Idle Thoughts[908-955][/del]  
Suburban Plankton(0) :[del]pedescribe[860-874][/del]  
Did Not Vote: pedescribe,Idle Thoughts,One and Only Wanderers

septimus is dead. He was\*\* vanilla town\*\*.

Night 3 begins now. And ends in just under 48 hours.

Remember nights are fluff only.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1075 "2011-03-09T00:11:43Z")

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Well, that sucks.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1076 "2011-03-09T01:00:16Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Jeez, you just don’t wanna be clear about this, do you? 😃
> 
> Mahaloth has selected Pedescribe as our vig / doctor target, if I’m not mistaken.

You know me. I’m coy. 😃

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1077 "2011-03-09T01:09:46Z")

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It sucks, but not too hard.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1078 "2011-03-09T01:22:44Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> It sucks, but not too hard.

as long as there’s no biting, I’m good with it

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1079 "2011-03-09T02:36:55Z")

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Bleah.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1080 "2011-03-09T02:38:23Z")

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Seconding the bleah. Sorry, septimus.

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