# Glasnost Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 17, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757 "2011-02-17T23:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1341 "2011-03-18T09:22:30Z")
Yay for us!! Go, good guys!! (Wish we were so successful in real-world politics.) > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Hey, you didn’t do anything stupid that lead to you getting lynched early and hurting your team, so that puts you way ahead of some people… You might be speaking of me, but I’ll just turn the other cheek. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1342 "2011-03-18T11:26:39Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > You might be speaking of me, but I’ll just turn the other cheek. 😃 I don’t think he was - he was perhaps referring to the game immediately before this one (or just past games in general). Anyway I was impressed with your play in that you went ahead and participated while I was sometimes too scared to post something that might sound dumb or scummy. You threw yourself in the deep end while I poked at the water with my big toe. ETA: and even though I was cautious I said both dumb and scummy sounding things! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1343 "2011-03-18T11:43:33Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > You threw yourself in the deep end while I poked at the water with my big toe. Everyone should have been sure I was Town: If I ever do get a Scum role I’ll be the guy cringing catatonically in the corner. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1344 "2011-03-18T12:33:54Z")
Suburban is that actually the _second_ time you’ve been lynched in part for something you did prior to joining the scum team? (At least the last time you were technically scum at the time!) ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1345 "2011-03-18T15:40:17Z")
I’m amused that Mahaloth’s lack of directness on vig-protecting pedescribe was what got Astral killed. All of Town’s disorganization and miscommunications ended up _helping_ us! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1346 "2011-03-18T15:50:11Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m amused that Mahaloth’s lack of directness on vig-protecting pedescribe was what got Astral killed. All of Town’s disorganization and miscommunications ended up _helping_ us! I wasn’t direct? ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1347 "2011-03-18T15:53:14Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I wasn’t direct? Indirect - vote pedescribe Direct - I would like the vig and doc to target pedescribe 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1348 "2011-03-18T15:54:40Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I wasn’t direct? No, not really. It would have been more direct if you had specifically typed: “The vig and doc should both target Pedescribe tonight”. Worked out okay, and it was clear enough, but it was a bit short of 100%. ETA - sniped by sach. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1349 "2011-03-18T16:07:08Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I’m amused that Mahaloth’s lack of directness on vig-protecting pedescribe was what got Astral killed. All of Town’s disorganization and miscommunications ended up _helping_ us! As vanilla town, I was happy to die for my team. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1350 "2011-03-18T16:54:23Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > Indirect - vote pedescribe > Direct - I would like the vig and doc to target pedescribe > 😃 Ah, I guess. I thought that my big, bolded, comment about voting pedescribe was clear. [From this post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13548062&postcount=1068) Especially with the timing of it. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1351 "2011-03-18T20:53:13Z")
I gotta figure out some way to better hide my mason-hood, I see. What tipped you guys off? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1352 "2011-03-18T21:15:27Z")
Probably just vote analysis. Masons don’t generally throw their partners under the bus like Scum do (nor, I think, should they), so once one’s out, it’s generally pretty easy to find the others. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1353 "2011-03-18T21:21:54Z")
There had to be more to it than just votes - I checked the votes and neither Ed nor Zer had voted for Maha - but I guess Ed must have expressed suspicion of him or something. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1354 "2011-03-18T21:27:39Z")
Pretty much what Chronos said. Once Maha had claimed we went back over his votes and votes on him to exclude some players. Then looking through his posts we saw you as the likeliest fellow-mason (#147, #181, #220, #246, #293/298/305). By process of elimination we came up with Wanderers as the probable last mason based on your interactions with other players. Didn’t help us much. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1355 "2011-03-18T21:58:59Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I gotta figure out some way to better hide my mason-hood, I see. What tipped you guys off? Monks tend not to vote for each other. Sorry for the M5 flashback. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1356 "2011-03-18T22:22:10Z")
Oh, so it wasn’t me, it was Maha? I thought my “vote once a day, stick to it like a great white attacking a cooler full of pork butts” strategy would mitigate my apparent mason-hood. =P ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1357 "2011-03-18T22:33:50Z")
You’re looking not just for one person who hasn’t voted for another person, you’re looking for a set of three people who all haven’t voted for each other, even when other folks are voting for them. Even without one being outed, you can see patterns in this, and eventually find the masons. It’s just that, usually, by the time the Scum could figure it out, it’s about time for the masons to be claiming, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757/1358 "2011-03-19T02:21:58Z")
The next game on my boards is being run by JSGoddess and it will be a Scooby Doo themed mafia. Sign ups are [here](http://idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=temp&action=display&thread=1590). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glasnost-mafia/571757.md?page=67)