# Glass Onion (a Knives Out Mystery) was in Theaters Nov. 23 -29, now on Netflix (Dec. 23, 2022)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** netflix, movies\
**Created:** [November 22, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388 "2022-11-22T16:40:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/41 "2022-12-25T17:47:08Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I with they’d done something a little smarter there.

The trope is a pocket Bible. I thought the notebook was a nice touch.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/42 "2022-12-25T17:47:20Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> My only complaint was the thin-ass notebook stopping a bullet.

That bothered me too. Could have been an incredibly easy fix in the script – maybe she uses a fancy metal notebook case gifted by her sister.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/43 "2022-12-25T17:48:14Z")

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I thought it was her sister’s notebook.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/44 "2022-12-25T17:48:17Z")

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I thought the Italian guy who stole the painting in 1911 cut it down a bit to fit the trunk in which he was hiding it.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/45 "2022-12-25T17:49:25Z")

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Or an electronic tablet she smuggled in, and that they can use to call the cops at the end.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/46 "2022-12-25T17:55:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> That bothered me too. Could have been an incredibly easy fix in the script – maybe she uses a fancy metal notebook case gifted by her sister.

I thought they could have tied it into the plot thread about her not being a drinker. During the bit where we see her learning how to play her sister, include a scene where it’s revealed that her sister always carried a flask, and have Benoit insist she carry one, too, for verisimilitude. Have the flask stop the bullet instead. Still bullshit - flasks aren’t that thick - but at least a little more plausible. Maybe make the flask a gift from Bron, and have him brag about it being made from some cutting edge space craft metal from NASA or something.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I thought it was her sister’s notebook.

It was. The problem is it’s a really thin notebook with a cardboard cover - even the lowest caliber bullet would blow right through it.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/47 "2022-12-25T18:03:09Z")

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Loved it, much more than the first one, which I thought was good, but not terrific. I enjoyed the humor in this one, which I guess was an aspect of the first one, but this movie leaned into it more and I liked that.

Great opportunity for Daniel Craig to play against type and this movie showed it more than the first one.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/48 "2022-12-25T18:12:54Z")

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I kept getting distracted by Daniel Craig’s clothes. I wanted to know what the fabric was and how much they cost. But, I’m sure they were all custom made by the costume dept.

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The problem is it’s a really thin notebook with a cardboard cover - even the lowest caliber bullet would blow right through it.

And hydrogen from the ocean isn’t exactly a fuel, and can’t be carried around in tidy white chunks. None of the science makes sense. Why shouldn’t the notebook stop a bullet.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/50 "2022-12-25T18:26:07Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And hydrogen from the ocean isn’t exactly a fuel, and can’t be carried around in tidy white chunks. None of the science makes sense. Why shouldn’t the notebook stop a bullet.

I can’t agree with this point of view. It’s not a science fiction movie. There’s no reason to think that physics works differently in the _Glass Onion_ universe than our own. The one exception is the hydrogen fuel, which is specifically presented in-movie as a radical technological breakthrough.

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And hydrogen from the ocean isn’t exactly a fuel, and can’t be carried around in tidy white chunks. None of the science makes sense. Why shouldn’t the notebook stop a bullet.

The crystal hydrogen fuel is a MacGuffin like the Maltese Falcon, while the cheap notebook is just a cheap notebook.

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I thought someone would get their head chopped off in that Mona Lisa case that kept opening and closing. I know that is too much like a horror movie, but I guess the only setup was that it would be burned in the fire due to the idiot installing an override switch.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glass-onion-a-knives-out-mystery-was-in-theaters-nov-23-29-now-on-netflix-dec-23-2022/975388/53 "2022-12-25T19:10:19Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And hydrogen from the ocean isn’t exactly a fuel, and can’t be carried around in tidy white chunks. None of the science makes sense. Why shouldn’t the notebook stop a bullet.

I don’t really know anything about hydrogen fuels. But I do have a shelf full of Moleskine notebooks, and while they’re well made, they aren’t _that_ durable.

Plus, there’s the whole cliche angle. “Character appears dead, but is saved because of a notebook in their pocket,” is a really worn-out cliche regardless of how you slice it, in a way that “billionaire makes dangerous superfuel out of seawater,” is not. For a film that was otherwise very self aware of the tropes it was employing, handling this one in such a straight forward, unironic manner was disappointing and lazy. I was anticipating that they’d figure out a way for her not to be dead, after they’d just spent all that time developing this fantastic character via flashback, and I was looking forward to the clever way they’d justify her surviving, and was let down by the actual reveal.

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> [@Miller](#):
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> My only complaint was the thin-ass notebook stopping a bullet. For a film as self conscious of its tropes as this one, I with they’d done something a little smarter there.

The bullet went through a glass panel of indeterminate thickness first. May have mushroomed and lost a lot of velocity.

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I guess that, in fairness, anything at all that happened to be in her pocket and stopped the bullet would have been a huge cliché, even if it was more physically plausible. But the plot needed everyone to think she was dead at this moment, so something had to be in there.

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Assuming she’d actually died, I’m curious what Bron would have done with the gun. Planted it in someone’s room? Just throw it in the Ionian Sea?

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So what _do_ you call the place where sweatpants are made?

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Wasn’t the bullet a graze? It didn’t hit her straight on, it was from the side. So she fell from the impact and shock.

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They showed the bullet stuck in her little flimsy notebook.

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I know, but it could still have come in on a perpendicular angle, so it wasn’t trying to cut through 5mm of paper straight on, but 60mm of cardboard cover long-wise.

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