# GLEE 2.08 "Furt" (or, the Carol Burnett episode)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 23, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696 "2010-11-23T20:30:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/41 "2010-11-24T22:13:05Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> She danced with Will in one episode but I don’t remember if she sang too. She did sing in the Olivia Newton John episode.

Did she sing in the Vogue video?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/42 "2010-11-24T22:40:00Z")

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> [@gwendee](#):
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> Did she sing in the Vogue video?

Yeah, I think she did.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/43 "2010-11-24T22:55:54Z")

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I didn’t like Sue’s wedding, but I loved Burt and Carol’s.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/44 "2010-11-24T23:43:22Z")

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In the unlikely event I ever get married I totally want to dance down the aisle (though it will require weeks of lessons and probably a government grant since I have all the natural rhythm of an oyster).

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/45 "2010-11-24T23:53:22Z")

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I also loved Burt and Carol’s wedding. I assume the entrance dance was inspired by [this real-life wedding](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0), but watching the youtube video again, it looks as if the bridesmaids’ dresses were also inspired by the IRL wedding!

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/46 "2010-11-25T03:39:04Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Another “Carol was mostly wasted”. Has she had a stroke incidentally? Her mouth droops to one side.\<snip\>

Maybe her plastic surgeon didn’t tighten up one side as much as the other. 🙂

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/47 "2010-11-25T06:36:05Z")

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> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#):
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> Overall I liked the interaction with the glee characters concerning Kurt’s being bullied, really liked how his dad jumped right in there and slammed that kid against the locker. He really is a cool dad.

Agreed that it was well-deserved, but in real life Burt would be in deep trouble for doing that. Adults can’t hit kids, especially other people’s kids, without consequences. I’m surprised Krofsky’s parents didn’t sue him.

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> Are they really saying the club is only taking one week to prepare for sectionals? That really is pushing the suspension of belief even for me.

Heck, try planning a wedding in a week. disbelief has not just been suspended, it’s expelled.

> [@Noelq](#):
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> > I kept expecting Karofsky to bust into the wedding and pull a gun on Kurt just when he was so happy.
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> Thank you. I was on edge the whole time waiting for this. Happily, it didn’t happen.

Glad I’m not the only one. I think I’ve watched too much Whedon. I expect happiness to turn to tragedy at a moment’s notice. That’s not the Glee way, thankfully.  
If you cut out the idiotic Sue’s self-wedding scenes and the two-joke Carol Burnett scenes (1- OK, we get it. she really was fighting Nazis, it wasn’t a lie. ha ha. 2-Sue is a bully because she was bullied by her mom. Nice parallel with Kurt’s bully. now move on.) this was an awesome episode. First time in a while that I’ve been moved to go to youtube and listen to the songs. (except for Ohio… that was painful enough the first time)

I had fond memories of enjoying the Carol Burnett show from growing up. I don’t remember why, just that I liked it. Her appearance here did nothing to remind me of why. bleh.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/48 "2010-11-25T06:47:39Z")

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Karofsky appears in next week’s episode (Special Education) so apparently his plot’s not over.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/49 "2010-11-26T01:57:10Z")

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So if Finn and Kurt = Furt (and Finn should be really thankful his mom didn’t marry Artie’s dad), and Finn and Rachel are Finchel, what will Kurt and Blaine be?

Blurt and Kaine seem the most logical choices I suppose.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/50 "2010-11-26T02:03:05Z")

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Personally I would’ve though “Kinn” would’ve been more appropriate given that Finn & Kurt are now stepbrothers, not lovers.

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**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/51 "2010-11-26T02:44:58Z")

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> I didn’t like Sue’s wedding, but I loved Burt and Carol’s.

I didn’t like the concept of Sue’s wedding but thought her dress was great.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/52 "2010-11-26T03:12:48Z")

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> [@gwendee](#):
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> I didn’t like the concept of Sue’s wedding but thought her dress was great.

Was that (the “wedding”) supposed to be some kind of reference to something, or did the writers come up with the whole bizarro concept themselves?

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/53 "2010-11-26T03:38:51Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Personally I would’ve though “Kinn” would’ve been more appropriate given that Finn & Kurt are now stepbrothers, not lovers.

Remember this is Finn thinking this up. Of course he’s going to gravitate to the least graceful option.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/54 "2010-11-26T22:45:47Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Karofsky appears in next week’s episode (Special Education) so apparently his plot’s not over.

I wonder how Finn, Artie, Sam, Mike, & Puck are going to treat him now. Bieste is going to have her hands full keeping order in that lockerroom.

> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Agreed that it was well-deserved, but in real life Burt would be in deep trouble for doing that. Adults can’t hit kids, especially other people’s kids, without consequences. I’m surprised Krofsky’s parents didn’t sue him…

True, but Sue’s also shoved plenty of students into lockers and gotten away with it.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/55 "2010-11-27T01:25:59Z")

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I loved loved LOVED the Burt/Carol wedding. I thought throughout it “I can’t believe I almost quit _Glee!_”

And then the rest of the show sucked ass.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/56 "2010-11-27T04:06:21Z")

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Actually, I was flipping through the channels this week and saw [this (I Me Wed)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0991164/) movie on Lifetime Movie Network. Even for my love of Dopers I couldn’t bring myself to watch it, but apparently the “marrying yourself” thing has been done in the movies, if not “based on actual events”.

StG

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I remembered another thing I liked from the episode - I liked the girls getting their guys to stand up for Kurt. I also liked Rachel telling Finn she has never been so disappointed in him.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/58 "2010-11-29T19:02:35Z")

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Overall, I really liked this episode. With Glee I’ve gotten into the habit of just totally tuning out those parts that are just out there, and enjoying the really good part. Burt/Carol wedding was great. Truly a very well done scene, as was the reception. I especially liked the expression on Shue’s face while the kids were singing to Kurt. That he was proud of the part he played in getting these kids to accept Kurt that way.

My take on Sue is that she has little sympathy with someone whinning on just being called names, or made fun of. Her viewpoint is that type of thing is just par for the course in life, and the kids need to get over it, and get a thicker skin. However when it comes to physical bullying, she takes it much more seriously. Especially when something like death threats are involved. Which makes sense in the whole “Sticks and stones may break by bones, but words can never hurt me” type of world she lives in. She basically says to suck it up if someone calls you a bad name, but if someone threatens physically, that’s much different.

I also like the girls telling the glee guys to step up and do something to help Kurt. I also liked how Artie and the other guy getting into the bully’s face in the locker room ended up with them getting their ass kicked…which is what really would have happened in real life.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/59 "2010-11-29T19:11:27Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> Gelfling, Porcelein or Tickle Me Dough Face. That was cute.

I’m pretty sure it was Tickle Me **Doe Face** , not dough face. Because he does sort of have a doe face, but I’m not even sure what doughface would mean. A puffy face? Doesn’t make sense.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-08-furt-or-the-carol-burnett-episode/561696/60 "2010-11-29T23:34:47Z")

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> [@filling\_pages](#):
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> I’m pretty sure it was Tickle Me **Doe Face** , not dough face. Because he does sort of have a doe face, but I’m not even sure what doughface would mean. A puffy face? Doesn’t make sense.

White. Pasty. Dough-face.

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