# Glee: 2.09 "Special Education" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 1, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496 "2010-12-01T00:52:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/61 "2010-12-05T21:40:12Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > Certainly not solos as they weren’t featured at sectionals. Were they auditioning for the club? We only saw one song each from the Warblers and Hipsters, but two from New Directions. It stands to reason that all the groups had a similar number of songs (which may have been even more than two) and that only a few were shown for lack of time. So they may well have gotten solos. Also, I think they were told they were “moving on” so maybe there were further levels of audition to make it through. one or both of them might not have made it. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/62 "2010-12-05T23:33:29Z")
Ok, tiny niggly point of Hollywood forgetting that the real world has winter (and fully realizing that teenage girls often dress inappropriately for the weather because they are more concerned with their “look”) But in the _Merry Christmas, Darling_ video, they show Rachel walking down the school hallway in a sleeveless dress. Folks, it’s winter in Ohio. It’s cold. And schools are not overheated, and everyone else is wearing jackets. At least she had short sleeves and a hat during the “snow” scenes. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/63 "2010-12-05T23:55:47Z")
Personally, I think that the “trying too hard” thing at Kurt’s audition was being emotive. The Warblers are all about military harmonic precision. They aren’t looking for standout voices, even for solos - Rachel would never make it with the Warblers. Both she and Kurt are standout performers in a choral world. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/64 "2010-12-06T01:25:42Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Personally, I think that the “trying too hard” thing at Kurt’s audition was being emotive. The Warblers are all about military harmonic precision. Rewatched it today and something small I noticed this time that I didn’t before: During Kurt’s audition, at the climax of the song (“Don’t cry for me Argentina!”) he begins to raise both arms with his palms up, Eva Peron-style. Blaine gives him a subtle gesture to keep his arms down, and Kurt quickly complies. Then, during the Warblers’ sectionals performance, Rachel catches Kurt’s eye in the audience and she gestures for him to smile big, which he wasn’t before but he then does. So it definitely looks like the writers are setting it up for Kurt to feel like his individuality and self-expression are being supressed at Dalton. On another note, I’m looking forward to the upcoming holiday songs. And to the eventual return of Vocal Adrenaline. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/65 "2010-12-06T19:34:59Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > …and fully realizing that teenage girls often dress inappropriately for the weather because they are more concerned with their “look”)… Speaking of inappropriately dressed teenagers; why have they stopped having Sam do shirtless scenes that have little to do with the plot? :mad: They better make up for his skin drought soon. Like have him join the swim team or causely walking around the lockerroom in a jock (as long they don’t show him from behind that should be broadcastble) or better yet give us a whole scene of Austin Powers style onveniently placed object nudity. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/66 "2010-12-06T20:08:50Z")
Mmm - Austin Powers-style conveniently-placed-object nudity. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/67 "2010-12-06T21:14:53Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Speaking of inappropriately dressed teenagers; why have they stopped having Sam do shirtless scenes that have little to do with the plot? :mad: They better make up for his skin drought soon. Like have him join the swim team or causely walking around the lockerroom in a jock (as long they don’t show him from behind that should be broadcastble) or better yet give us a whole scene of Austin Powers style onveniently placed object nudity. Or a GLEE GONE WILD DVD; then they could go all out. I know for a fact that Cory Monteith has gotten nekkid for movies before, and Jonathan Groff/Lea Michelle got nekkid on stage together, so just add in Sam and Puck and you’ve got a guaranteed 3 million seller. I’m surprised there’s not more “uncensored” TV videos. I honestly think that if they ever released a SAVED BY THE BELL: High School Reunion Orgy hardcore porn DVD it would be the first porn ever to break $200 million (so long as they left Screech at home). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/68 "2010-12-06T22:51:59Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > Ok, tiny niggly point of Hollywood forgetting that the real world has winter (and fully realizing that teenage girls often dress inappropriately for the weather because they are more concerned with their “look”) But in the _Merry Christmas, Darling_ video, they show Rachel walking down the school hallway in a sleeveless dress. Folks, it’s winter in Ohio. It’s cold. And schools are not overheated, and everyone else is wearing jackets. At least she had short sleeves and a hat during the “snow” scenes. So what you’re saying is Baby, It’s Cold Outside. I hadn’t really thought about it til I read the preview notes on that link, but _Baby It’s Cold Outside_ really is a creepy date-rapey kind of song, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/69 "2010-12-06T23:37:33Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Or a GLEE GONE WILD DVD; then they could go all out. I know for a fact that Cory Monteith has gotten nekkid for movies before, and Jonathan Groff/Lea Michelle got nekkid on stage together, so just add in Sam and Puck and you’ve got a guaranteed 3 million seller. > I’m surprised there’s not more “uncensored” TV videos. I honestly think that if they ever released a SAVED BY THE BELL: High School Reunion Orgy hardcore porn DVD it would be the first porn ever to break $200 million (so long as they left Screech at home). And wouldn’t you know, the only one in that cast as far as I know that’s done a sex tape is… Screech. And I hear it’s really gross. ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/70 "2010-12-07T02:49:03Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > Personally, I think that the “trying too hard” thing at Kurt’s audition was being emotive. The Warblers are all about military harmonic precision. They aren’t looking for standout voices, even for solos - Rachel would never make it with the Warblers. Both she and Kurt are standout performers in a choral world. In watching Blaine in his two songs with the group he certainly sang and acted like a “standout” performer. Standing out front and dancing his own little routine with his chorus of background singers. How is that any different than any other group that has soloists? Agree that Kurt and Rachel thrive in the freedom of expression that is WMHS. Neither is really a “team” player but add to the overall excellence of the group. It was good for Rachel to see that the group could be successful without her as the star. A little humility will go a long way. Felt rather sad that Carol and Burt gave up their honeymoon. If any two people deserved a time off to themselves in Hawaii, it’s those two. And their honeymoon money would probably pay for one year at that public school, but not sure how they’ll afford future years. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/71 "2010-12-07T03:07:14Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > Felt rather sad that Carol and Burt gave up their honeymoon. If any two people deserved a time off to themselves in Hawaii, it’s those two. And their honeymoon money would probably pay for one year at that public school, but not sure how they’ll afford future years. If that. Even a cheap private school is usually more expensive than state college, and that’s an upscale one. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/72 "2010-12-08T00:10:25Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So what you’re saying is Baby, It’s Cold Outside. > > I hadn’t really thought about it til I read the preview notes on that link, but _Baby It’s Cold Outside_ really is a creepy date-rapey kind of song, isn’t it? Aw, Sampiro, you’re my most favorite poster on here. I’ve spent more hours than I care to count in reading about your mother, the house, and your crazy sister. I love your opinions on so very many things… Yet the first time choose to respond to you is with a “whaaaa?” BICO is a song between two lovers who are looking for an excuse, ANY excuse, to stay together longer. They’re both in the warm glow of love, at the point where you are trembling with excitement just to be in the same room as your beloved, and desperately want to find a way to keep in each others’ company. I’m sure you remember those days – Stopping by their house to get “the pencil you left” there. Walking by their locker accidentally - even when its on the opposite side of campus. Doing that sappy, sappy goodbye thing where "No, YOU hang up first ::coo.. coo..::. I really can’t stay… ((please oh please convince me to stay!)) This evening has been so very, very nice ((I want to stay with you so much! (quick brain! Think up an excuse, or they’re leaving!!) Um.. um.. Baby its.. um. Cold outside! Yes, that’s it! You can’t go home because its too cold! Your hands will get icy!! Well, maybe I’ll stay for just.. oh.. a half-drink more… 🆒 And so forth. Two people almost at the point where they’ll admit they love each other.. but not ready to go over the edge yet. Very, very sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/73 "2010-12-08T00:40:30Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > BTW; Did Kurt say he hadn’t talked to Finn since the wedding? :dubious: How long has it been? I know Mike said they’d look for a bigger house, but it’s really strange that him and Carol would live apart in the meantime now that they’re married which means Kurt and Finn should be sharing a room in the short term. When they first mentioned Dalton they said it was in Westerville, which is a suburb of Columbus while Finn and the gang are in Lima. If they’re going for accuracy (which I doubt so who knows) it would be quite a hike for Kurt to live at home and go to Dalton each day. > [@Misnomer](#): > > A-freakin’-men. And I was glad when Schue called her out on her bitchy self-centeredness, but her choice of “Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina”\* showed that she still hasn’t gotten the message. She needs to be single and put her place every week, or at least until she learns how to sing the beginnings of phrases without imitating Britney Spears. I wish someone would clue her in that she’s not on the stage anymore and she doesn’t have to convey so much emotion in.every.single.song. Yes, I know Rachel is a drama whore as a character, but holy crap I get so annoyed with her “Sing Acting” and how she shuts her eyes to show HOW EMOTIONAL SHE IS about ten times a minute during each song. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/74 "2010-12-08T02:52:34Z")
> [@Noelq](#): > > Two people almost at the point where they’ll admit they love each other.. but not ready to go over the edge yet. Very, very sweet. Thanks for the compliments.😉 I actually loved it in _Neptune’s Daughter_ when they did the contrast of seductive Ricardo Montalban/Esther Williams to the man hungry Betty Garrett/Red Skelton, so it’s probably just this version- Kurt walking around like a cat in heat and all (but still not touching- damned network prudes:p). [QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies] When they first mentioned Dalton they said it was in Westerville, which is a suburb of Columbus while Finn and the gang are in Lima. If they’re going for accuracy (which I doubt so who knows) it would be quite a hike for Kurt to live at home and go to Dalton each day. [/QUOTE] That whole plotline is so unrealistic that he might use a teleporter or go in a flying car each morning. Even if they did have to take him out of school due to bullying I’m sure even in or near Lima there are private academies that would be loads cheaper, and as mentioned above his tuition would probably cost more than their honeymoon savings and then there’s the notion of what to do for next year. Kurt’s father’s financial status is inconsistent. He can afford to buy Kurt a really nice SUV and buy him a closet full of designer clothes and Kurt’s downstairs digs imply wealth, but then the house only has 1 BR (Kurt has repurposed the basement and there’s no guest room) and they apparently can’t afford to add on and only have enough money saved for a wedding and honeymoon. [QUOTE=Sleeps With Butterflies] but holy crap I get so annoyed with her “Sing Acting” and how she shuts her eyes to show HOW EMOTIONAL SHE IS about ten times a minute during each song. [/quote] One of my favorite moments on the show was when Rachel sang a musically beautiful and way overacted “Papa Can You Hear Me” to Kurt’s unconscious dad and then at the end says “Who’s next?”. Shows that at least one of the writers has a clue as to her melodrama whoredom. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496/75 "2010-12-08T14:51:13Z")
You don’t see anything date rapey in “Say… what’s in this drink?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-09-special-education-open-spoilers/562496.md?page=3)