# Glee: 2.11 "The Sue Sylvester Shuffle" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 7, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461 "2011-02-07T00:30:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/21 "2011-02-07T19:19:16Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Also, the song they did on stage in the make-up, “She’s Not There” was originally recorded by… The Zombies. That was perfect. 🙂 Well, not completely perfect - the one song where Finn should have used that pained screech he does, and he didn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/22 "2011-02-07T19:35:22Z")
I thought “She’s Not There” was the highpoint of the episode. Of course, I’m of an age where it took about three notes for me to say “fuck, that’s by the Zombies!” 😃 Plus, having it sung by zombies added whole new levels of meaning to it. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/23 "2011-02-07T20:53:55Z")
They mentioned “zombie camp”. I’d only heard that term before in an Atlanta cattle call for extras in _The Walking Dead_- it’s a short workshop where they teach you how to and how not to move and what expressions to make and not make. Is it a term from something else as well? I wonder how many new hits the Filipino prison video had as a result of this. That video got my hopes up for a production of _Oklahoma!_ starring the Aryan Brotherhood as the farmers and the Crips as the cowboys, but to date it has yet to materialize. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/24 "2011-02-08T00:01:40Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The rumor on the streets (street people being almost unanimously obsessed with GLEE) is that Kurt and Blaine are going to kiss in the Valentine’s Day episode. I hope so as it would be a lot more interesting than anything this week. Huh…that will surprise me if true, because I had predicted that the Kurt/Blaine thing would end with Kurt saying he’s madly in love with Blaine and assumes that they are going to be together, and Blaine having to give Kurt the bad news that he only sees him as a friend. The ensuing awkwardness is what makes Kurt transfer back to McKinley a week before Regionals. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/25 "2011-02-08T00:07:00Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Huh…that will surprise me if true, because I had predicted that the Kurt/Blaine thing would end with Kurt saying he’s madly in love with Blaine and assumes that they are going to be together, and Blaine having to give Kurt the bad news that he only sees him as a friend. The ensuing awkwardness is what makes Kurt transfer back to McKinley a week before Regionals. They can both be true. Kurt surprises Blaine with a kiss, then Blaine trys to let him down easy. Or they kiss, date for awhile, then breakup. Or Finn finally get’s tired of all his girlfriends playing mind games with him and turns to Kurt for “comfort”. The last option being a fantasy sequence of Kurts. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/26 "2011-02-08T00:52:09Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > They can both be true. Kurt surprises Blaine with a kiss, then Blaine trys to let him down easy. Or they kiss, date for awhile, then breakup. Or Finn finally get’s tired of all his girlfriends playing mind games with him and turns to Kurt for “comfort”. The last option being a fantasy sequence of Kurts. With a _Moulin Rouge_- Lady Marmalade inspired dance number featuring that week’s guest artist Loretta Lynn as Mrs. Figgins. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/27 "2011-02-08T01:29:22Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The entire football lineup was super lazy writing, and the attempt to show layers to Karofsky was futile. (So he has some talent? So he’s tortured on the inside? Good. Until he does public penance and either takes a bullet for Kurt or gets 39 lashes well laid on he’s not pitiable.) I appreciated that they didn’t end this episode by having Karofsky joining the glee club and vowing to be a better person and all. He’s not sorry for how he treated Kurt, and while he found that being in the glee club was kind of fun he probably won’t be treating the members much differently now. I figure they will eventually try to redeem the character, but at least it won’t be done so quickly or easily. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/28 "2011-02-08T02:32:25Z")
I watched the whole first season but dropped the show this year. And almost every reason I had for dropping it was written into this episode. Sure, I get the whole “it’s a musical fantasy” notion. In fact, I would keep watching that show. The show I can’t watch is the one in which you’re supposed to believe a bunch of people in their late 20s pretending to have serious life-altering high school crises each and every week with no consequences except the ones that surface five shows later for a plotline. (Look at some of the real teenagers in the background. They look like the kids of the actors.) A movie musical that takes characters you don’t care about and gives them unreal problems to solve with a final musical extravaganza is great fun. A tv show that does that every single week to the same set of characters is a turn off. The show has Sue’s problem. It’s been trying to top itself every week. It’s so far over the top now that it blew itself up in its own cannon. Watching after the Super Bowl, sure. Watching it every week? Can’t. Two things. The Katie Couric interview was obviously Sue’s fantasy scene just like the Chevy commercial. And I did like that the songs weren’t auto-tuned to death. And that “She’s Not There,” one of the greatest 60s’ songs, wasn’t turned into a bad version of a show tune as they so often did to rock last year. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461/29 "2011-02-09T00:37:30Z")
I liked when the big black football player said “who’s [whatever the name was]” about the song they were mashing Thriller up with, because I had just said the same thing. Probably overthinking it, but wouldn’t highschool football have ended already? Even assuming the episode takes place earlier than it’s airing, it still has to be taking place after Christmas which was in the previous episode. When does HS football usually wrap up? In that one locker room scene, between his mohawk and his shoulder pads being above his shirt, Puck looked like something out of a Mad Max movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-11-the-sue-sylvester-shuffle-open-spoilers/570461.md?page=1)