# Glee: 2.13 "Comeback" (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 16, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524 "2011-02-16T01:05:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/1 "2011-02-16T01:05:14Z")

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Sam does Bieber and Sue joins the Glee club.

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/2 "2011-02-16T02:30:02Z")

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I don’t like Justin Bieber, so I didn’t like a lot of the songs. And I just can’t get in to some of the romances developing.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/3 "2011-02-16T02:50:57Z")

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As long as you fast forwarded through the Bieber songs, though, it was actually a really good episode. Best in a while, I thought. The humor was right, the Sue was right, the plot points were ridiculous but appropriately so.

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/4 "2011-02-16T03:20:14Z")

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I though the comment from Britney to Rachel about 45 minutes in was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/5 "2011-02-16T03:20:35Z")

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Lauren’s song was very seriously WTF.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/6 "2011-02-16T03:23:35Z")

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Over all it was OK, but why the hell do so many of the Glee boys wear undershirts? :mad: Puck & Finn have shown way more skin in the past. Oh well and least Sam & Mike were shirtless. 🙂 And the fleeting shot of Sam in his undies made up for all the Beiber crap.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/7 "2011-02-16T06:19:52Z")

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I thought this was a bad episode. It was all over the place. One minute Sue is plotting to destroy the glee club from within. Then there’s a _very special_ episode scene with sad cancer kids and loving smiles. Then Sue is having a riot with the kids and doing a song, and suddenly she’s at Wil’s throat again. It wasn’t even consistent within the episode, let lone with the character as a whole.

The romances between all the characters are getting very tedious as well. I really don’t care who Captain Bieber winds up with, because all of them are kind of obnoxious.

Oh, and that show had the vibe of a show being paid off by Justin Bieber’s record label or something. The swooning for Bieber and the constant declarations of just how awesome and epic his songs are just felt like a commercial endorsement to me. And totally unrealistic as well. As was the instant orgasmic reaction of every female within 2 degrees of separation of that super-hot… 15 year old. Wasn’t that a little creepy? Whats-her-name even said so during the episode.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/8 "2011-02-16T06:27:09Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Oh, and that show had the vibe of a show being paid off by Justin Bieber’s record label or something. The swooning for Bieber and the constant declarations of just how awesome and epic his songs are just felt like a commercial endorsement to me. And totally unrealistic as well. As was the instant orgasmic reaction of every female within 2 degrees of separation of that super-hot… 15 year old. Wasn’t that a little creepy? Whats-her-name even said so during the episode.

So that makes what, the fourth singer that they completely swooned over?

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/9 "2011-02-16T07:05:03Z")

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I’ve never heard Bieber before so I can’t comment on the songs. I like Bieber himself though.

“I know what boys like” wasn’t terribly great. Granted, she was recruited solely for a headcount, and Mike can’t sing either, but he’s never done a serious solo.

I liked the nice Sue bits, even when they were fake. I don’t subscribe to the “can never resolve sexual tension” theory of television theories, and so I won’t ever subscribe to the “can never resolve rival after school groups tension” theory either or “never resolve villain seeing the light”. I’ve seen it happen many times, and the only real obstacle is good writing. When it’s failed, it’s always been because of bad writing, and not because of something inherent.

I have to agree with Sue though, none of the songs were anthems. The last song might have been an anthem in it’s regular form can’t say - but it wasn’t an anthem the way they were singing it. Not for lack of trying though - it was clear with all the arm raising and shouting that they were trying to anthemize it. But it didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/10 "2011-02-16T07:09:55Z")

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Isn’t Bieber’s fan base tweens more than high school students?

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/11 "2011-02-16T08:10:24Z")

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I love that when Kurt was mentioned Sue said “Sweet Porcelain” and then when Sam was done singing she said “I’ve got to get her on the Cheerios”

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**Author:** ![lshaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@lshaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lshaw)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/12 "2011-02-16T09:35:14Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Mike can’t sing either, but he’s never done a serious solo.

But does he dance in this ep? I only bother watching if he does. 😃

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/13 "2011-02-16T12:35:35Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Isn’t Bieber’s fan base tweens more than high school students?

Very much so, which is why I took the whole episode to be a satire of Bieber Fever.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/14 "2011-02-16T14:51:11Z")

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I don’t care about the problems, because I got to watch Lea Michele and Amber Riley belt “Take Me or Leave Me” at each other… which was cool because Lea is such a mini-me of Idina Menzel, who I saw belt “Take Me” at Fredi Walker in 1996. Granted that Amber Riley is no Fredi Walker, but still, the whole scene was such a weird almost-deja-vu feeling, the old and new, that I was very happy. That one duet made the hour worhtwhile.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/15 "2011-02-16T14:52:56Z")

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I liked this episode okay. I’ll admit the hospital scene with Will and Sue and the kids got to me a little.

I’m kind of torn about the last few episodes. I do like that characters like Santana, Brittney, and Mike have been brought more into the foreground. However, I don’t really care much for Sam, and a little Lauren goes a long way. This week was a nice break from Kurt, at least. I think the show is usually at its best when the stories revolve around the “anchors” of Rachel, Finn, and Mr. Shuester, like they did in season 1. Hopefully they will be the focus again as the season enters the homestretch toward regionals.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/16 "2011-02-16T17:52:28Z")

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I voted “meh” mostly because I don’t suffer from BieberFever. As usualy, the Brittney parts were great - her character is hysterical. Concur that the “very special episode” feel of the sick cancer kids was … odd. (Also, sick kids dying or recovering from cancer don’t have round, rosy cheeks and that much friggin’ energy.)

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/17 "2011-02-16T18:50:51Z")

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The show hasn’t had a really good performance in a while.

The first season had Don’t Stop Believing, It’s My Life, and Defying Gravity. Nothing in the second season has come close.

I’m hoping they’ll get their mojo back.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/18 "2011-02-16T21:24:14Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> The show hasn’t had a really good performance in a while.
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> The first season had Don’t Stop Believing, It’s My Life, and Defying Gravity. Nothing in the second season has come close.
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> I’m hoping they’ll get their mojo back.

We’re counting down to regionals.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/19 "2011-02-16T21:37:30Z")

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Does anyone else think that Rachel’s “let’s write/perform an original song” idea is a bad, bad thing?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-2-13-comeback-open-spoilers/571524/20 "2011-02-16T23:00:46Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I voted “meh” mostly because I don’t suffer from BieberFever…

The only way the Bieber stuff in this ep works is if it’s a satire on BieberFever. I think that’s the case. This wasn’t like the Brittany episode where they just strung a bunch of Brittany Spears numbers together without a plot. At least they didn’t have Bieber herself gueststar.

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