# Glee: 3.03 "Asian F" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618 "2011-10-04T21:41:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/41 "2011-10-07T14:41:07Z")
This is kind of off topic, and might be a stupid question, but I’ll ask anyways. I rarely watch the news, but I’ve heard from a number of second-hand sources that Fox News has a pretty significant conservative bias. Assuming that’s true, how does Fox as a network feel about a show like Glee, since it has a message of tolerance and acceptance of gay people? Or do the news and actual TV shows not have anything to do with each other? It just seems odd that Fox would have a show with numerous well-rounded gay characters. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/42 "2011-10-07T17:54:01Z")
My guess is that Fox likes money more that adhering to any political or social bias. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/43 "2011-10-07T19:28:07Z")
> [@Stauderhorse](#): > > This is kind of off topic, and might be a stupid question, but I’ll ask anyways. I rarely watch the news, but I’ve heard from a number of second-hand sources that Fox News has a pretty significant conservative bias. Assuming that’s true, how does Fox as a network feel about a show like Glee, since it has a message of tolerance and acceptance of gay people? Or do the news and actual TV shows not have anything to do with each other? It just seems odd that Fox would have a show with numerous well-rounded gay characters. Seth MacFarlane has produced one of Fox’s highest rated and most irreverent shows for more than 10 years and says he’s never met Rupert Murdoch. News and TV are totally separate entities; the TV wing is strictly a money making business and not a conservative mouthpiece. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/44 "2011-10-07T19:36:37Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Seth MacFarlane has produced one of Fox’s highest rated and most irreverent shows for more than 10 years and says he’s never met Rupert Murdoch. News and TV are totally separate entities; the TV wing is strictly a money making business and not a conservative mouthpiece. And Fox has always been pretty comfortable with allowing itself & it’s executives to be mocked on it’s shows (provided of course those shows make money). This goes all the way back to **Married With Children**. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/45 "2011-10-07T22:04:52Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > And Fox has always been pretty comfortable with allowing itself & it’s executives to be mocked on it’s shows (provided of course those shows make money). This goes all the way back to **Married With Children**. Heck, the Fox Entertainment Group is happy to have Fox’s scripted programming go after Fox News (there have been several jokes at Fox News’ expense on _The Simpsons_ and probably on other shows as well) and Fox News go after Fox’s scripted programming. I posted this back around the time it originally aired, but [Glenn Beck](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Hx7pCMS_c) did a segment this spring about how _Glee_ is entertaining and well-made but also horrifying immoral Communist (!) propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/46 "2011-10-09T02:20:50Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Agreed. I’m glad to see him getting more screentime before graduation. Now if only his abs could get some more screentime as well. 😉 Maybe not screentime, but [Harry Shum Jr. shirtless](http://daman.co.id/da-man-exclusive-harry-shum-jr/rev-harry-shum-layout-rl-version4/). [Full interview](http://daman.co.id/da-man-exclusive-harry-shum-jr/). ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618/47 "2011-10-09T03:00:11Z")
I looked up [Tamlyn Tomita](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000674/), the actress who played Mrs. Chang, to see where I recognized her from. Turns out she’s had supporting and guest roles in a number of movies and TV shows that I’ve seen, but her first credited screen role was as Ralph Macchio’s love interest in _The Karate Kid Part II_. I found this amusing since on _Glee_ her character tells Mike that she loved dancing when she was young, and her young character in _Karate Kid II_ also loved dancing and wanted to be a professional dancer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/glee-3-03-asian-f-open-spoilers/598618.md?page=2)